First Test Cutting Cycle help

[pistol345]

Hey guys,
I've run 2 ph cycles in the past, but I've become really interested in running my first test e cycle in the spring. I'm planning it out, and I'm hoping you can fill in some of the blanks for me. Here's what I'm looking at...

Weeks 1-8

Test E- 600mg per week (2 300mg pins per week)
Adex- .5mg EOD


Weeks 9-12
Test E- 600mg per week (2 300mg pins per week)
Adex- .5mg EOD
Winny: 50mg EOD

weeks 13-14

nothing

Weeks 15-18 (pct)

Nolva- 40/40/20/20

HCG- 500IU twice per week (1000 IU per week)



So... hows this look overall? I've never taken any of these supps before (except Nolva), so I'm not positive about the dosages. Should I include some HCG during cycle to prevent testicular atrophy?

[jgrant27]

your dosages look ok, the hcg you would want to include during the cycle 500iu per week 250iu 2x week you can start it at week 3 by then the test will start kicking and shutting you down, some guys may say start at week 1, you can stop hcg at week 12 when you stop test. im not the hcg guru jus my 2 cents im still learning my self brotha

[pistol345]

your dosages look ok, the hcg you would want to include during the cycle 500iu per week 250iu 2x week you can start it at week 3 by then the test will start kicking and shutting you down, some guys may say start at week 1, you can stop hcg at week 12 when you stop test. im not the hcg guru jus my 2 cents im still learning my self brotha

Oh okay. Thank you. I would think people would run hcg during those 2 weeks you stop test, to get your boys going strong, and possibly continue it through pct. sounds like a lot of hcg to me tho.

I've also heard of people "pulsing" hcg throughout the cycle, to get the boys going again, without building a tolerance to the hcg. at least thats the way I understand it. Seems more cost effective that way. Maybe some other people can share their opinions...

[dylangemelli]

your running your test way too high... there's absolutely no need for that... 350-500 is plenty... you should run winstrol 6 weeks... make sure to run a cycle assist alongside of it... start hcg week 7-12 at 500 ius week then blast it week 13-14 at 1000 ius week...

[pistol345]

your running your test way too high... there's absolutely no need for that... 350-500 is plenty... you should run winstrol 6 weeks... make sure to run a cycle assist alongside of it... start hcg week 7-12 at 500 ius week then blast it week 13-14 at 1000 ius week...

Awesome info. Thanks man!

[BlackGT99]

your running your test way too high... there's absolutely no need for that... 350-500 is plenty... you should run winstrol 6 weeks... make sure to run a cycle assist alongside of it... start hcg week 7-12 at 500 ius week then blast it week 13-14 at 1000 ius week...

What's the idea behind blasting hcg? (Never read that, anywhere) And also I've read that 500+mgs of test is where it's at. Jw

[dylangemelli]

What's the idea behind blasting hcg? (Never read that, anywhere) And also I've read that 500+mgs of test is where it's at. Jw

its where its at if you want to get more shutdown and get the possibility of more sides... you can get amazing gains on 350-500 mg of test... blasting hcg makes the transition and recovery into pct MUCH EASIER...

[Gerbil]

Winny 6 weeks at 50mg min.
Test not too high, a bit on the high end but depending on the lab could be underdosed.

Blasting hcg is normally around 1000iu last week to get your testes hopefully back to full blown balls.
Just note that your last hcg inject should be 3-4 days before starting pct because it will still mess with your natural hormone output.

[jgrant27]

i agree the test dosages arent to high 400 to 500 mgs a week is a good start if you read alot og guys have started there, my first cyle was test e 400 a wk had damn good results, ive never blasted hcg. so cant help there.

[pistol345]

Okay thanks guys. And keep in mind this is for a cut. So is it possible to get super cut and build a little muscle at the same time? I would love that

[blueblood]

Im in..... Planing a very similar run in march looking for the same results, lean gains cut at the end to 10% or so. Good luck.

[R1187]

Not knocking the OP, I'm just curious.

If the goal is a cut, why would test be run that high?

Everyone reacts differently, but test is a wet compound, and at that dosage, it doesn't seem the best choice for a cut?

Plus the winstrol seems underdosed, IMO

When I think cut cycle, I think low dose test, high dose tren or masteron, plus winstrol.

[pistol345]

Not knocking the OP, I'm just curious.

If the goal is a cut, why would test be run that high?

Everyone reacts differently, but test is a wet compound, and at that dosage, it doesn't seem the best choice for a cut?

Plus the winstrol seems underdosed, IMO

When I think cut cycle, I think low dose test, high dose tren or masteron, plus winstrol.

Honestly, I don't know what dosage to use. Thats why i posted here before I started doing it all wrong. haha. I just googled it and saw some other posts where people were using similar ones. I just want to take enough to keep all my muscle from my bulk. I'd really like to do tren, but people say to do at least one test cycle before adding tren so you know which steroid is giving you side effects. So you would recommend about 300mg test per week? I'm planning to start cutting on April 11th, and cutting for 12 weeks to July 4th (then showing off my ripped body!).

[MIGUEL1J]

This is actually my next cycle I will start it in late march. Only difference ill be doing test e first shot at 1000iu then at 500mg for 12weeks on week 10 start winstrol. ill bump hcg to 1000iu two times a week after the last test injection. Ill follow your log good luck

[dylangemelli]

Not knocking the OP, I'm just curious.

If the goal is a cut, why would test be run that high?

Everyone reacts differently, but test is a wet compound, and at that dosage, it doesn't seem the best choice for a cut?

Plus the winstrol seems underdosed, IMO

When I think cut cycle, I think low dose test, high dose tren or masteron, plus winstrol.

my point exactly... i just got done running test prop 100 mg eod and mast prop 200 mg eod with anavar at 80 mg day... its a perfect cutting cycle...

[BlackGT99]

its where its at if you want to get more shutdown and get the possibility of more sides... you can get amazing gains on 350-500 mg of test... blasting hcg makes the transition and recovery into pct MUCH EASIER...

Sounds great. Thanks for clearing me up. Never used AAS

[Gerbil]

This is the blurry as hell version but I will get a better version. This is part of a study that says more test injected lowering of fat mass, and an increasing of fat free mass. Now if you are talking oh this amount of test will make me look more bloated be my guest but saying you cant cut on more gear is silly.

[dylangemelli]

i can't seem to see where i ever said you can't cut on that amount of test... its just NOT NECESSARY... it makes it more difficult... its not impossible and those words NEVER came from me... it just not optimal...

[xerbia]

If you're getting super bloated on test no matter what ester while you're cutting you're doing it wrong. There's plenty of ways to keep the water retention low.

[Gerbil]

i can't seem to see where i ever said you can't cut on that amount of test... its just NOT NECESSARY... it makes it more difficult... its not impossible and those words NEVER came from me... it just not optimal...

I am guessing our definitions crossed somewhere my idea of a cut the only thing of any concern is bf not weight.