First Test Cutting Cycle help

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  1. I started my cycle off with 40mg a day anavar for 2 weeks now am a week into 60mg when should I start the test e, I'm going to run 250mg every 4 days, I end with test because like I said about two weeks after getting off test I really start growing. I'll run the test for 10 weeks at 500mg a week. And wat is hdrol is it a otc sup or aas


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Jason559 View Post
    I started my cycle off with 40mg a day anavar for 2 weeks now am a week into 60mg when should I start the test e, I'm going to run 250mg every 4 days, I end with test because like I said about two weeks after getting off test I really start growing. I'll run the test for 10 weeks at 500mg a week. And wat is hdrol is it a otc sup or aas
    Should've starte the test at the beginning too it doesn't start kickin in until at least the 4th week that's why people run a kickstart

    And hdrol is a designer steroid
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jason559
    I started my cycle off with 40mg a day anavar for 2 weeks now am a week into 60mg when should I start the test e, I'm going to run 250mg every 4 days, I end with test because like I said about two weeks after getting off test I really start growing. I'll run the test for 10 weeks at 500mg a week. And wat is hdrol is it a otc sup or aas
    I would have ran test from the beginning, so id say start now. And you runnin hcg with it? I highly recommend it

  4. More update pics! I'm so happy with my results. I feel like a douchebag cause I'm checkin out my abs every chance I get. Haha.

    Notice the vascularity in my arm (just chillin at the house), and in my shoulder. I can't believe it.

    I can't wait to see some more results when I jump back on ECA and up it to 3 doses per day for the last 2 weeks.

    Then for the last week, I'm manipulating my carbs and water intake and gonna look shredded on july 4th. I'm confident that I'm around 8%bf, hoping to caliper around 4% after more fat loss and water manipulation


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  5. Bad news... somebody threw away my HCG. It was in the bottom drawer in the fridge and somebody tossed it, but nobody is admitting it. Wtf!?!?

    So... I'm stopping my cycle and allowing the test to leave my system. And will start PCT 2 weeks after my last injection (which was 3 days ago). I'm hoping for a solid pct and maybe a libido boost.

    Still have to work out a few things, but I have all my PCT supps on hand
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  7. Good luck. It was fun reading your updates.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post
    Bad news... somebody threw away my HCG. It was in the bottom drawer in the fridge and somebody tossed it, but nobody is admitting it. Wtf!?!?

    So... I'm stopping my cycle and allowing the test to leave my system. And will start PCT 2 weeks after my last injection (which was 3 days ago). I'm hoping for a solid pct and maybe a libido boost.

    Still have to work out a few things, but I have all my PCT supps on hand
    Dude wtf I'd flip!!
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  9. Hey pistol what brand of hcg do u use and where do u get it. First week of 500mg of test down and will pin later before my w.o. all the deep cuts and vascalarity I had are already leaving because of water. Sooooooo pissed 500$ for anavar gone!!! But I broke my bench Plato finally at 4 plates

  10. I'll post pics and hopfully u can tell me some advise on what I ahold add

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jason559 View Post
    Hey pistol what brand of hcg do u use and where do u get it. First week of 500mg of test down and will pin later before my w.o. all the deep cuts and vascalarity I had are already leaving because of water. Sooooooo pissed 500$ for anavar gone!!! But I broke my bench Plato finally at 4 plates
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    Yo, no asking for brands or sources and no source posting. You'll get banned
    Srrrrrry, otc hcg good enough?????

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jason559 View Post

    Srrrrrry, otc hcg good enough?????
    Hcgenerate is not hcg. When will people get this?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Jason559
    Hey pistol what brand of hcg do u use and where do u get it. First week of 500mg of test down and will pin later before my w.o. all the deep cuts and vascalarity I had are already leaving because of water. Sooooooo pissed 500$ for anavar gone!!! But I broke my bench Plato finally at 4 plates
    I just get it from the source where I get test. It looks pretty sketchy actually... its all in chinese or somethin. But it definitely worked.
    4 plates on each side? That's sick man.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Jason559 View Post

    Srrrrrry, otc hcg good enough?????
    Anything OTC is fine to talk about but hcg is not otc
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  16. So I'm on my final week of cutting. I'm gonna start water and carb manipulation tomorrow in preparation for Friday. Here's what I'm looking at...


    Low carbs and high water intake for 4 or 5 days before Friday. Cut out all water 1 day before the "show".

    need to fill the liver before optimally loading the muscles, and the carbs in the bloostream will make you vascular.

    If someone has a lean body mass of 166lbs the optimal amount of carbs would be around 700g.

    One could be simple about this and simply consume that 700g of carbs throughout the loading period.

    If one wants to be really anal about it, it could look something like this:

    125g of fructose (fruits) at the very beginning of the carb-up period to fill liver glycogen right away.

    545g of starchy carbs (potatoes and sweet potatoes being ideal as they are less allergenic than rice, oatmeal, pasta,bread, etc. and will cause less water retention), 500 of those are consumed over the main loading day, roughly 80g for 6 meals.

    45g of starchy carbs and 30g of simple sugar are consumed the breakfast of the show or photo shoot.

    Keep 30-50g worth of simple sugar handy for backstage if you are flat and are having problems carbing up.


    I found that on some site somewhere. Looks good, and can't wait to try it out

  17. Just fell waaay off my no carb diet. Did great yesterday, but the cravings were too much for me today. 8 cookies, 2 brownies, and a glass of milk. I feel guilty, but oh so satisfied...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post
    Just fell waaay off my no carb diet. Did great yesterday, but the cravings were too much for me today. 8 cookies, 2 brownies, and a glass of milk. I feel guilty, but oh so satisfied...
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  19. Skipped the gym today as well. Eh...

    But I'm already brainstorming my next cut cycle. I really want some stupid libido, so maybe prop and masteron? And I wouldn't even need an AI since the masteron has similar qualities, right?

    And I keep reading tren logs, but I know that's not recommended for a 2nd cycle.

    Overall I've loved my results, and there's been a few things I never mentioned...

    My beard has been growing in way more and darker than ever before. I've always been a complete baby face (and still am really) but there is no question I've had more facial hair progress these last couple months than the last 2 years combined.

    Libido was pretty ****ty through the whole cycle. Don't really know what's up with that. Maybe I'll get a boost PCT with the supps I'm taking.

    Adding in triazole and endosurge turbo with my DAA and clomid PCT. Also bought some cialis just in case I'm having trouble down there. But if all is well... I'm gonna be stupid hard. Haha

  20. I enjoyed reading your log man! That's strange your libido wasn't insane high (perhaps higher test next go around) also as long as you have your prolactin ancillaries you should be good to go for tren etc... How is Endosurge turbo?

  21. Or I just thought of perhaps your estro was crushed and you had no idea?? Also because of masteron (referring to your next cycle) I'd say you'll be good to go on not using an AI but to still keep one on hand JIC homie

  22. OP what are your goals? I didn't see it throughout your log. Maybe I missed it.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BlackGT99
    Or I just thought of perhaps your estro was crushed and you had no idea?? Also because of masteron (referring to your next cycle) I'd say you'll be good to go on not using an AI but to still keep one on hand JIC homie
    That's quite possible. It wasn't low enough to cause dry joints tho until I added lean xtreme (which causes sore joints from low cortisol). And id definitely keep an AI on hand no matter what.

    And I've never tried endosurge pro. Actually never even heard of it before some dude on here offered me some. I did a quick google search and people were raving about it (especially for libido). That, triazole, and daa all work to boost test by different methods so I'm hoping for a great synergistic effect

  24. Quote Originally Posted by hardwork25
    OP what are your goals? I didn't see it throughout your log. Maybe I missed it.
    I thought I posted them somewhere in here. I just wanted to do an all out cut. I'm no expert with the calipers, but I wanted to go from 15%bf that I started at to sub 7% while maintaining muscle. According to my measurements I went from 15 to 6! Even if those numbers aren't exact, I lost a ton of fat. Abs look great.

    And I lost all that fat and only lost like 2lbs of bodyweight, so I must have added a good amount of muscle. I did way better than I expected honestly. Definitely slacked on my diet this last week or so

  25. Great results

  26. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post

    I thought I posted them somewhere in here. I just wanted to do an all out cut. I'm no expert with the calipers, but I wanted to go from 15%bf that I started at to sub 7% while maintaining muscle. According to my measurements I went from 15 to 6! Even if those numbers aren't exact, I lost a ton of fat. Abs look great.

    And I lost all that fat and only lost like 2lbs of bodyweight, so I must have added a good amount of muscle. I did way better than I expected honestly. Definitely slacked on my diet this last week or so


    From your pics you're def not 6%. What is your weight now? Congrats on your progress, but at 6'3 and 185lbs instead of a cut why not bulk? And I saw that you said you put on 50+ lbs of muscle, but I'm sorry to say from your pics that that's not even close to being true.

    I'm not here to flame you or talk sht, but I'm 6'2 205lbs and I walk around naturally at 10-11%bf and I wouldn't consider a cut until I put on another 25 lbs at least. So I guess my question is what made you decide on a cut?

  27. Maybe a better question would be why did you us AAS to get "cut" when you were already skinny or lean or whatever? A change in your diet would have had the same results I'd imagine without shutting your system down.

    But then again maybe not.......

  28. Quote Originally Posted by hardwork25

    From your pics you're def not 6%. What is your weight now? Congrats on your progress, but at 6'3 and 185lbs instead of a cut why not bulk? And I saw that you said you put on 50+ lbs of muscle, but I'm sorry to say from your pics that that's not even close to being true.

    I'm not here to flame you or talk sht, but I'm 6'2 205lbs and I walk around naturally at 10-11%bf and I wouldn't consider a cut until I put on another 25 lbs at least. So I guess my question is what made you decide on a cut?
    Well everybody has a body that they want... I don't want to be a huge bulky guy. I live at the beach and play basketball, so I wanted to have a nice set of abs and at least a little chest and arms.

    Yea, I didn't think I was at 6% honestly, but I'm willing to believe I'm 8ish. And I've grown about 1-2 inches since I was 135lbs, but I'm even leaner than then, and I weighh 185 now. Definitely not fat, so idk. You just don't realize the kind of walking skeleton I used to be. Haha. So id say that's VERY close to being true...

    So all in all, I want to look how I want... to each his own. When I've cut natural in the past, I've dumped hard earned muscle, so I was afraid to do that again. And I basically did a spring recomp while attempting to just cut

  29. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post

    Well everybody has a body that they want... I don't want to be a huge bulky guy. I live at the beach and play basketball, so I wanted to have a nice set of abs and at least a little chest and arms.

    Yea, I didn't think I was at 6% honestly, but I'm willing to believe I'm 8ish. And I've grown about 1-2 inches since I was 135lbs, but I'm even leaner than then, and I weighh 185 now. Definitely not fat, so idk. You just don't realize the kind of walking skeleton I used to be. Haha. So id say that's VERY close to being true...

    So all in all, I want to look how I want... to each his own. When I've cut natural in the past, I've dumped hard earned muscle, so I was afraid to do that again. And I basically did a spring recomp while attempting to just cut


    Cool congrats on your progress

  30. Thanks for all the support guys.

    More update pics. I'm living it up while I still can. Been on a cookies and milk kick for a couple days...

    I think my favorite part of my results is having constant veins in my arms. Biceps and forearms always have bulging veins at work. Feel like a beast. Haha



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