First Test Cutting Cycle help

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  1. Alright guys. The day of my first pin is rapidly approaching. Very excited, but kind of nervous of course. Just wanted to double check on a few things...

    What's the deal with rotating injection sites? At 2 test pins per week, can I just do one glute Wednesday, the other one Saturday? Or do I need to do different body parts the next week? And what about injecting the HCG sub Q? Can I just inject into belly fat with an insulin needle, or need I change injection sites with that too?

    Sorry for all the questions, but I tend to overthink things and worry. Thanks

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post
    Alright guys. The day of my first pin is rapidly approaching. Very excited, but kind of nervous of course. Just wanted to double check on a few things...

    What's the deal with rotating injection sites? At 2 test pins per week, can I just do one glute Wednesday, the other one Saturday? Or do I need to do different body parts the next week? And what about injecting the HCG sub Q? Can I just inject into belly fat with an insulin needle, or need I change injection sites with that too?

    Sorry for all the questions, but I tend to overthink things and worry. Thanks
    I like to use quads/glutes and delts for long ester cycles so use glutes first week then quads week two then delts week three rinse and repeat. Sub-q just dont stick the needle exactly where you stuck it before.

    First cycles are nice to find what pinning sites you like/dislike, experiment.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil

    I like to use quads/glutes and delts for long ester cycles so use glutes first week then quads week two then delts week three rinse and repeat. Sub-q just dont stick the needle exactly where you stuck it before.

    First cycles are nice to find what pinning sites you like/dislike, experiment.
    Okay thanks a lot

  4. Alright guys, just did first injection ever! My heart was racing, but I did everything properly. My ass is getting sore already... didn't expect that to happen so fast. I'm in it to win it now. Thanks for the help
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  5. 16 days in.

    Been trying to cut, but weight has stayed about the same. Going to cut some more calories.

    Haven't really noticed much yet (which I know cyp takes 4-5 weeks to kick in fully), but have had really oily skin and a few zits on my back.

    Seemed like my libido was going up at first, but the last few days... I've been totally disinterested in sex. Wondering if its an E2 issue. Been taking aromasin at 6.25mg everyday since the start of week 2. Been injecting 250iu HCG 3x a week since the start of week 2 as well (actually forgot to refrigerate it for the first couple days). Think its ruined?

    Maybe its just a transitional period where my body is slowing its natural test production... idk. Not freaking out about it, but just wondering if this is normal.

    Thanks

  6. And just that fast, just got a random boner out of nowhere. Idk what's going on anymore. Haha

  7. Random wood FTW

    How's the HCG injections? Where are you pinning the test?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TaylorSwift
    Random wood FTW

    How's the HCG injections? Where are you pinning the test?
    Yea. Haha. I tried HCG sub Q in my stomach 2 times and it hurt like hell. Its been over a week and its still a little tender. I did the last 2 in my glute and quad... virtually painless. I use a 27g insulin needle, and it flows out easily, so might try like a 30g.

    I'm rotating test sites in my glutes and quads. Quads are way easier. Haven't tried delts yet... might not. Been using a 1.5" 22g needle, and its not bad at all

  9. I dont really think HCG is needed for test alone, unless your in extreme suppressive amounts which is usually around 900mg+

  10. But, Very impressed with the precautions you are taking, usually people dont even think about it and just go for whatever they want to stack and just use something like nolva for pct... Needless to say they **** up their natural test and get gyno. I'v seen it first hand

  11. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post

    Yea. Haha. I tried HCG sub Q in my stomach 2 times and it hurt like hell. Its been over a week and its still a little tender. I did the last 2 in my glute and quad... virtually painless. I use a 27g insulin needle, and it flows out easily, so might try like a 30g.

    I'm rotating test sites in my glutes and quads. Quads are way easier. Haven't tried delts yet... might not. Been using a 1.5" 22g needle, and its not bad at all
    What's your hCG dosing scheme?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by NoLimitz
    But, Very impressed with the precautions you are taking, usually people dont even think about it and just go for whatever they want to stack and just use something like nolva for pct... Needless to say they **** up their natural test and get gyno. I'v seen it first hand
    Thank you, I appreciate the recognition. And yea, I see people do that too. I was freakin terrified about trying a test cycle, so I researched like hell til I realized its actually pretty safe if all precautions are taken.

    But I read an article somewhere that said if a constant and normal level of LH (or HCG) isn't supplied to the testes, they become desensitized, and won't ever work at 100% that they used to. You'll "recover", but your testes might only work 90-95% as well as they used to. And after 10+ cycles, you need HRT. Obviously its not as cut and dry as that, but it still made sense to me

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TaylorSwift

    What's your hCG dosing scheme?
    As a continuation of my last post...

    I read that 100iu of HCG per day is ideal for supplying constant amounts of fake LH (hcg) to the testes, and maintaining proper function during and after the cycle. And that the androgens from the test cyp start to affect natural test production by week 2, so I started then.

    I don't wish to inject 7 days a week, so I do 250iu 3 times per week. I diluted it to 500iu/ml. That's .5ml per injection... which is actually more than most people do. Next time I will dilute it to about 1000iu per ml, so I shoot less.

    Its still early but my boys are looking good as ever. Definitely still worried that the HCG might go bad early because I left it at room temperature for a few days before refrigerating. But my bottle will be used up by week 6, then I'll start with a fresh bottle and I'll make sure to refrigerate it immediately.

  14. First day of week 4.

    Started my ECA stack today as well. Finally lost a little weight from when I started. Think I might have recomped slowly cause I look a little bigger and leaner. Really just want to focus on shedding fat, but I don't mind a little muscle either. Haha.

    Ordered some lean xtreme, and waiting for that to arrive. Starting helladrol next week, so I'm hoping for some strength increase and muscle hardness in a few weeks.

    Getting a little acne on my back and face, so I tanned outside today to help with that. put a little Head and Shoulders on my bacne to kill the bacteria too.

    Feelin good, looking good, and excited to feel full effects of the cyp soon.

  15. Before/after/progress pics? I'm interested. Patiently awaiting the ar***** of my gear (going to be similar to your cycle)

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    No dramatic changes yet. Diet has been really clean, with one cheat meal every Tuesday. Expecting more rapid fat loss with the test kicking in, ECA, helladrol, and Lean Xtreme. Can't wait!

  18. Oh... and I just stopped creatine a couple days ago. So I can jump back on it PCT for a kick

  19. Looking solid man! Keep up the hard work

  20. To be quite frank I think you're pretty lean as it is. I'd use this cycle to lean bulk and put on like 10-15lbs of muscle. You'd look yoked at 190-200lbs

  21. Quote Originally Posted by BlackGT99
    To be quite frank I think you're pretty lean as it is. I'd use this cycle to lean bulk and put on like 10-15lbs of muscle. You'd look yoked at 190-200lbs
    Thank you. But nah, I have a very specific plan with building myself. I want to bulk natural every winter, and cut in the spring with aas to keep all my gains. I don't desire to be really big anyways, so slow building every year, and getting diced as hell for summer is what I'm planning. It keeps suspicion of roid use low too cause everybody thinks if u take roids you get super jacked fast. Small steady gains and staying lean is what I'm looking for. Going well so far

  22. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post

    Thank you. But nah, I have a very specific plan with building myself. I want to bulk natural every winter, and cut in the spring with aas to keep all my gains. I don't desire to be really big anyways, so slow building every year, and getting diced as hell for summer is what I'm planning. It keeps suspicion of roid use low too cause everybody thinks if u take roids you get super jacked fast. Small steady gains and staying lean is what I'm looking for. Going well so far
    Awesome man. I can respect that! Can't wait for summer

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BlackGT99

    Awesome man. I can respect that! Can't wait for summer
    Hell yea. I'm not gonna wear a shirt... ever. Haha

  24. Day... 26?

    Dear diary... haha

    Halfway through week 4 and I think the cyp is kicking in. It seems like I'm looking leaner everyday. I'm constantly lifting up my shirt and checking out my abs in the mirror. Just tested my BF and it said 13, so I think I've lost 1 or 2% already. People keep telling me I'm looking bigger.

    I certainly don't feel very "alpha" or any different really. Definitely feeling overall mood enhancement tho. Seems like everyday is a pretty good day, but I've had my moments where I'm easily frustrated with people. Could be placebo effect, but I haven't been in this good of a mood for a long time.

    Been sleeping like a baby every night, and waking up full of energy. I might go to sleep a little late and only sleep for 5-6 hours and wake up ready to go.

    Libido has been really weird lately. Definitely not for the better either. Seems like erection strength has been mediocre and it takes forever to... finish. Was expecting raging libido and hard dick syndrome. Could be an estrogen issue. Not worried about it, but just thought id share

  25. If you think perhaps its an estrogen issue perhaps you could use adex "as needed"?? Just an idea man

  26. Quote Originally Posted by BlackGT99
    If you think perhaps its an estrogen issue perhaps you could use adex "as needed"?? Just an idea man
    I've been taking low dose (6.25mg) aromasin every day to prevent some of those high estrogen side effects. Just worried about my skin breaking out and stuff. Idk

  27. Been doing some research and it could be the aromasin messin with my libido. I'm gonna stop taking it for a week and see what happens. If my skin breaks out bad, I'll jump back on it.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post
    Been doing some research and it could be the aromasin messin with my libido. I'm gonna stop taking it for a week and see what happens. If my skin breaks out bad, I'll jump back on it.
    That's a good idea. Maybe try an EOD protocol to see if that helps

  29. Yea true
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