6 week M-Sten
- 01-25-2013, 01:25 PM
- 01-25-2013, 04:36 PM
Should be fine. I ran ultradrol for 6 weeks.Black Lion Representative
I'm a Brooklyn boy I may take some gettin' use to
01-25-2013, 05:06 PM
01-25-2013, 05:30 PM
I figured it would be fine just havnt seen any threads where people were running the M-sten for that long. I would understand to be a little weary if it was a Superdrol, but have heard the sides on m-sten are alot less minimal
01-25-2013, 05:37 PM
01-25-2013, 08:41 PM
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01-26-2013, 06:44 PM
01-26-2013, 08:22 PM
01-26-2013, 10:24 PM
i will say:
i ran ultradrol, going up to 24mg at end..
was nothing compared to 20mg on msten
3 weeks was nice; 4th week was horrid
would not do 6 weeks for any amount of money (me personally)
01-26-2013, 11:40 PM
You have to ask yourself if it's really worth it. Could you not get the same or better gains a smarter way? What about a longer 6-8wk nonmethyl cycle of higher dosed trenavar or trenazone or lmg depending on preferences mixed with a bunch of the AMS hormones or other mild crap and kickstarted w/ 3-4 methyl wks of msten/dmz/sdrol/dbol etc. Seems like you'd gain as much or more with probably less liver/cholesterol impact. If the legality/needles aren't the issue here obv a methyl kicking off a test cycle would be best for anyone looking for more gains than 4 wks of msten at a high dose alone.
01-27-2013, 12:22 AM
01-27-2013, 05:19 PM
Np man. I can't comment directly from experience here, so hopefully someone much more knowledgeable than I can chime in, but I've read before that as the liver becomes further compromised throughout a methyl cycle the stress on the body (or perhaps even lack of appetite, theoretically) can create a situation of diminishing returns. Of course the receptors are getting used to the compound and dosing as well so I'm sure that's got something to do with it too.
Either way, for whatever it's worth, if you're going to try 6 wks of sten it may really be worth the trouble to get bloods around the 3-4 wk as a precaution before you get in too deep. I've read things on here of guys running 8 wks of dmz @ 45mg/ed. Liver values came back decent after pct. Other people have bad liv values after 5wks of prodienelone even with a cycle support. Everyone's different so just be smart.
04-13-2013, 02:33 PM
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05-17-2013, 04:31 AM
05-17-2013, 04:57 PM
Going to do 20mg a day for fore weeks with 30mg of trestabolan. PCT will be clomid and torem 50/50/25/25
Should be a good stack!
05-17-2013, 05:04 PM
05-17-2013, 07:16 PM
That being said, it will be a rough run libido & lethargy-wise for you as neither compound really serves well as a base, & side-wise pumps, cramping, lethargy, acne are all sides both compounds will contribute to. I don't see any difference between this and people using msten & DMZ together tho, such as Blackstone Lab's new Super DMZ 2.0 that many people run (without TUDCA, unfortunately).
People may argue that both compounds share similarities to sdrol & will thus not pair well, but msten & dmz both are and yet pair excellently. Just keep this run to 4wks preferably, & consider stano or 4dhea with it as a base. One bottle of either should suffice for the month.
05-17-2013, 07:54 PM
I tried six weeks of msten 20mg with 1-andro. Had all supports. Could only make it about 5 weeks until I just couldn't take it. No sides until then and they kicked in full force. Try if you'd like but IMO I won't do it for that long again, if I do. Good pumps though, but a good preworkout does the same. I got better results from halodrol.
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05-17-2013, 08:43 PM
I really wouldn't personally run it for more than 4 weeks 5 if everything is going very well and only if I have minimal symptoms of hepatic stress at the end of the fourth week. I just started my Super Dmz 2.0 cycle yesterday and I really can't tell if its placebo but its definitely a feel good hormone to me. Havoc just makes me anxious and kills my appetite this stuff seems to make me have more energy and appetite I know I am only 2 days in but even after 2 days of Havoc I can tell I am more anxious. I would run it for 4 weeks and bridge into a high dosed non methyl for another 4 weeks. Infact I was thinking about doing this with trenavar 60-90 mgs a day but I am not sure yet.
05-18-2013, 02:49 PM
05-19-2013, 01:09 AM
05-19-2013, 04:32 PM
Celtitren Cycle Log
This is Tiny Tony's log of Celtic Labs' new Celtic Tren product. He started at 90 or 120 and has been at 150 for some time. After 5-6wks he just added M14ADD at I believe 120mg e/d since he apparently has a huge supply of it & has been seeing great gains. The Trenavar is almost done, but he's not sure how long he'll continue to run the Pro-dianabol now that he's bridged into it & has so much.
Said the tvar gave him lots of vascularity, nice progressive strength gains, a bit of lean mass, bad cramps/backpumps, I believe raisin nuts (but that's everything long enough), and maybe some nightsweat. No notable lethargy & said his joints feel like heaven both just on the tvar & especially now on the m14add.
05-19-2013, 08:43 PM
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