Bulk Up or Alpha Mass?

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  1. Andro factory- yeah i will post the results but I'm going to b starting this cycle the end of march because I'm just finishing a cycle now but i would be gald to post before and after pics and review is there any way to get discounts on bulk up cause i would buy 2 bottles then.


  2. When's the ETA? I'm starting my SD next week. Would like to run it with it.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    When's the ETA? I'm starting my SD next week. Would like to run it with it.
    heading this month I'll see if i can get a date i know its close

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mich29 View Post

    heading this month I'll see if i can get a date i know its close
    Ok cool. You guys have a week and half tops to bring it out lol.
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  5. have anyone of you guys tried the lg science products and are they any good?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    Ok cool. You guys have a week and half tops to bring it out lol.
    eta is 2 weeks pretty. close

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mich29 View Post

    eta is 2 weeks pretty. close
    Lol hahaha. Hmmmm maybe a 50% discount? Sounds fair to me ;-)
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Really??.. The original 4-Androstenediol was some good stuff. Are you sure that it's just as good? Or have you forgotten how good 4ad was I mean it's been a long time.
    I'm fairly sure i came across a new company still selling 1,4 ad or 4 ad the other day. Funnily enough i think it is still around.
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  9. Bulk Up or Alpha Mass?


    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
    BULK-UP vs. AlphaMass or AlphaBulk


    I was seeking a thread where I could do a fair comparison between the active ingredients in BULK-UP and another product that may or may not provide as good a solution. 4-DHEA has shown a reputation of a small amount of lethargia and 1-DHEA has had a large amount of lethargia


    ANDRO FACTORY has stopped using 1 -DHEA because of this and developed a new formula where a-DHEA and b-DHEA balances out any lethargia that the 4-DHEA might have created.

    We have created a solution and it is in balancing the DHEA's in a Complex to get the benefits of all while balancing out any negative effects.


    As far as a direct compassion in mg and cost. Here is a quick break down

    ANDRO FACTORY'S BULK-UP 456 mg total per 3 softgels

    a-DHEA (3-alpha-enanthoyloxy-5-alpha-androstan-17-one) 68mg

    ß-DHEA (3-beta-undecanoyloxy-5-alpha-androstan-17-one) 194mg

    4-DHEA (3-beta-enanthoyloxyandrost-4-en-17-one) 194mg


    Thats over 19,000 mg of prohormones per bottle.

    Forrunners AlphaMass 30 mg per 3 softgels Only 1-DHEA

    Forrunners AlphaBulk 60 mg per 3 softgels Only 4-DHEA

    As far as cost goes BULK-UP by ANDRO FACTORY is $139.50 per bottle but you can find it at any resaler for less than a hundred

    Both AlphaMass and AlphBulk are about $100.00

    It is my opinion that AF has a superior formula (as far as any DHEA goes), less lathargic effects, MUCH stronger dosing and the price is just right for what your getting.


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  10. Bulk Up or Alpha Mass?


    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
    You can. You would essentially be taking something close to our last version of BULK-UP. We had 1-DHEA in there to. Only decieded to take it out on the last run to keep water weight, bloating and lethergy down.

    If you have a bottle of Alpha Mass and you plan on taking it alone Defiantly add BULK-UP to it. I'll even give you a buy one get one half off coupon code. That's probably the only way your going to get really cycle out of it.

    BULKUP14

    Type it in at check out.
    1-dhea enanthate does not cause bloat or water retention. It does not aromatise.

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    Defiantly

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    Lol hahaha. Hmmmm maybe a 50% discount? Sounds fair to me ;-)
    I'm hoping for an intro sale
  12. Bulk Up or Alpha Mass?


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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Beginner

    Intermediate
    now these i was digging I haven't been over to ya sub forum in awhile will have to swing by

  14. mich29 if i do a detailed cycle review of alpha mass and max bulk and before and after pics can do you think i can get like 50% off max bulk... just wondering?
  15. Bulk Up or Alpha Mass?


    Quote Originally Posted by 8ATHLETE View Post
    mich29 if i do a detailed cycle review of alpha mass and max bulk and before and after pics can do you think i can get like 50% off max bulk... just wondering?
    I would not stack these products. Max Bulk will significantly reduce the effectiveness of Alpha Mass. If you want a longer cycle I would just use two bottles of Alpha Mass like so:



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  16. Quote Originally Posted by 8ATHLETE View Post
    mich29 if i do a detailed cycle review of alpha mass and max bulk and before and after pics can do you think i can get like 50% off max bulk... just wondering?
    I'll shoot corporate an email and see what I can do

  17. Quote Originally Posted by 8ATHLETE View Post
    mich29 if i do a detailed cycle review of alpha mass and max bulk and before and after pics can do you think i can get like 50% off max bulk... just wondering?
    that would be nice if we could get you a good discount for max bulk....i'd love to see the log for max bulk
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  18. Received the hormones for LEAN-CUT and FOCUS and they just went out for testing. If anyone cares to know testing for identification and assay (purity %) for the activeS in LEAN-CUT and FOCUS is around $2000. Something that is NOT required by GMP & the FDA. But we do it every time, every batch, no exceptions.

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  19. Received the hormones for LEAN-CUT and FOCUS and they just went out for testing. If anyone cares to know testing for identification and assay (purity %) for the actives in LEAN-CUT and FOCUS is around $2000. Something that is NOT required by GMP & the FDA. But we do it every time, every batch, no exceptions.

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  20. yeah and I'm running alpha mass with it as well and will be 6 week cycle and the results from alpha amass alone were great with max bulk added it will be real nice

  21. why will it affect the effectiveness of alpha mass just curious

  22. Any updates yet on MAX BULK? There's lots of folks waiting for this product line...

  23. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Any updates yet on MAX BULK? There's lots of folks waiting for this product line...
    a lot of reps waiting for the product line as well haha....we're all chomping a the bit to try all the products
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  24. Bulk Up or Alpha Mass?


    Quote Originally Posted by 8ATHLETE View Post
    why will it affect the effectiveness of alpha mass just curious
    The other product contains naringenin, which is an extremely potent 17b-hsd inhibitor. That is a critical enzyme that facilitates the conversions of Dhea's to diols and testosterones. In other words it will block prohormones from converting to anything other than Dione's (the weakest).
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    The other product contains naringenin, which is an extremely potent 17b-hsd inhibitor. That is a critical enzyme that facilitates the conversions of Dhea's to diols and testosterones. In other words it will block prohormones from converting to anything other than Dione's (the weakest).
    This is interesting. I had never heard of this effect before, only that it could possibly modulate estrogen along with extending the half-life of certain drugs. But, my question is how much effect would Naringenin really have in human body with regards to enzyme inhibition? Would it really be that noticible? I also could only find 2 studies that seemed to relate to this enzyme inhibition, but one said it inhibited 3b-hsd, the other 17b-hsd. Maybe it inhibits both, but then again to what degree?

    Perhaps the amount effective for extending the half-life of compounds isn't great enough to cause enough inhibition to be noticable. Both the Andro Series by PP and these AndroFactory clones use Naringenin, but I don't recall anyone ever raising the issue of enzyme inhibition with Primordial's products. The enzyme inhibition seems to be intrinsically tied to the CYP P450 inhibition. If that is the case, wouldn't your hormone carrier run into the same issue? Just speculating on that; I'm too tired to search for yet another ingredient right now. Besides which, just because it isn't in a study doesn't mean that that is not the case; the oposite is also true at times.

    Maybe it is just a case of six of one, half a dosen of the other. Longer half-life and less conversion vs. shorter half-life and more conversion.

    These are the only two studies that I could pull up that seemed relevant: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23370353 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11205867 .

  26. def interesting here can't say I've ever heard of this being a problem either

  27. does lg science have good products?

  28. id use frl or AF rather than lg....
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  29. why? lg has been in the hormone business for a long time, i'd say they know a thing or two about what they're doing.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    id use frl or AF rather than lg....
    Why? Agreed on FRL though

    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    why? lg has been in the hormone business for a long time, i'd say they know a thing or two about what they're doing.
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