Methylstenbolone

[blujay88]

I want to run "ultradrol" I don't want to use testosterone even though I know it should be run. I just don't want to stick myself when the cycle is 4 weeks long, I would have to use propionate every day.
Cycle: 10mg a day x 4 weeks
Arimidex as an AI 0.5 mg EOD
Nolvadex as a PCT 30/20/10/10/5
Milk thistle and other cycle supports throughout the cycle and pct.
Am I in danger when running a short cycle like this with no test? I know it can be done, but what are the downfalls of running it without test? Besides a limp penis, will my balls bounce back okay?

 

[jimbuick]

I want to run "ultradrol" I don't want to use testosterone even though I know it should be run. I just don't want to stick myself when the cycle is 4 weeks long, I would have to use propionate every day.
Cycle: 10mg a day x 4 weeks
Arimidex as an AI 0.5 mg EOD
Nolvadex as a PCT 30/20/10/10/5
Milk thistle and other cycle supports throughout the cycle and pct.
Am I in danger when running a short cycle like this with no test? I know it can be done, but what are the downfalls of running it without test? Besides a limp penis, will my balls bounce back okay?

Dafuq did I just read?

M-Sten is not an aromatizing compound, this isn't a test cycle, no need for Adex on cycle.

A lot of people run 20 or even 30 mg a day.

Did you do any research at all before posting this?

Also 20/20/10/10 for Nolva would be fine.

 

[PumpHouse]

Eek.

 

[jimbuick]

What are your stats OP?

Age/weight/training experience/current maxed/cycle experience?

Current diet layout and training routine?

 

[blujay88]

Okay, thanks for your help. I'll probably end up running it light just to try it out. But, I will change the nolvadex cycle, and drop the AI. I'm just thinking that its a designer PH and it might have some unknown sides. I'll just keep some extra nolvadex on hand and run it though the cycle if I see some side effects like puffy nipples or man breast tissue forming.

 

[blujay88]

25/185/lifting for 2 straight years/ 180 bench 3x8/ i ran test enanthate @500mg for 14 weeks 2 years ago and everything went fine.

 

[PumpHouse]

10 mgs of m-sten is nothing. What brand are you looking at?

 

[jimbuick]

25/185/lifting for 2 straight years/ 180 bench 3x8

Do you not squat and DL? How tall are you?

Diet and training routine?

 

[blujay88]

It's a research powder from a good company, I'm getting a gram and a milligram scale. My diet is chicken, cheap fish I forget the name at the moment but its very common and healthy, rice, potatoes, oats, water, NOW foods daily vits. And veggies, fiber supplemented.

 

[blujay88]

Squat 225 5x5 dead lift 200 3x8 , 5'10

 

[jimbuick]

It's a research powder from a good company, I'm getting a gram and a milligram scale. My diet is chicken, cheap fish I forget the name at the moment but its very common and healthy, rice, potatoes, oats, water, NOW foods daily vits. And veggies, fiber supplemented.

I mean daily macros.

I don't care about where they come from as its all the same.

 

[jimbuick]

It sounds like you're jumping into AAS too soon.

I would guess you could make a ton of progress naturally without even using AAS for atleast another year just by squaring away your diet and training.

 

[PumpHouse]

You have quite a bit more research to go. Your cycles a bit of a mess. I'm more interested in your routine and diet though. Are you not seeing progress naturally?

 

[jimbuick]

It's a research powder from a good company, I'm getting a gram and a milligram scale. My diet is chicken, cheap fish I forget the name at the moment but its very common an healthy, rice, potatoes, oats, water, NOW foods daily vits. And veggies, fiber supplemented.

Why a RC for M-Sten? There are plenty of clones still out there (IML makes a good one)

 

[blujay88]

You got me, all I know is I get about 25 grams of protien, a serving of rice or potatoes and a serving of veggies 4 times a day about 400-500 calories a meal spaced 3 hours apart.

 

[jimbuick]

You got me, all I know is I get about 25 grams of protien, a serving of rice or potatoes and a serving of veggies 4 times a day about 400-500 calories a meal spaced 3 hours apart.

You should be tracking it.

That only comes up to about 2000 kCal a day. Which is nothing.

If you did a cycle, any gains you would make you would lose in PCT to a poor diet (not eating enough).

Which is what I assume happened after your injectable cycle.

 

[blujay88]

Yeah, I'm just going to sell the gram on eBay and do another test enanthate cycle. It's just better to go with the tested roids. I'm too scared to run just anything, I wanted to run it cuz the cycle comes to 150 bucks or so. The test cycle cost me 400+.

 

[PumpHouse]

That wasn't his point. You need to EAT.
You'll continue to make gains then quickly lose them until you learn to eat more.

 

[blujay88]

I'm going to look into the macro diet plan and set it up and try it out. Before I try anything right now, I'm just attending school again this August and wanted to look bigger, but I would run test if anything.

 

[TexasLifter89]

sounds like you have other stuff to worry first before throwing stuff in your body..

 

[jimbuick]

Yeah, I'm just going to sell the gram on eBay and do another test enanthate cycle. It's just better to go with the tested roids. I'm too scared to run just anything, I wanted to run it cuz the cycle comes to 150 bucks or so. The test cycle cost me 400+.

 

[blujay88]

I'll look around the thread for a bit and see what I can find. Thanks for your help guys.

 

[howwedo107]

That's an expensive test cycle lol