Yeah I've seen mixed reviews on it as well. DMZ seems to be able to be run for 6 weeks as opposed to 4 weeks for SD
I would not run dmz for 6 weeks unless you keep the dosage low like 10 mg. dmz is very hard on organs
yea dmz is also a dimethyl, i wouldnt play with any dimethyls for more than 4 weeks. dimethyls = sd, dmz, msten
That's what a lot of people were saying about ultradrol and part of the reason they pulled it. Bcuz of fear from the SD ban they thought they would go after ultradrol.
Seen a lot of logs with people running 6 weeks
Also guys seem to say the sweet spot is 30-45 mg
I ran DMZ at 60mg along with LMG and Stano for 6 weeks. Gains were nowhere near as good as what im seeing on SD/T-Var/Stano. But, I got bloodwork done 4 weeks after finishing PCT and I was all good across the board. Honestly not impressed with DMZ enough to run it again.
I ran UD for 6 weeks and no problem. Enjoyed it alot.
What was your dosing?
What dose? Did you use a test base? Libido issues? Thanks
Would like to know for sure
Weeks 1-2 8mg
No test base neither. Libido stood at bay. But next time I will add stano. My fav non mythel to add to a cycle.
Good to know thanks man. Always helps having a good dosing in mind
I can't wait to use stano in my next cycle with hdrol here soon
With M-sten 20mg should be sufficient enough stacked with stano must be awesome. Next month I'm doing sd and stano for the first time. Can't wait for that
Should be fun.
Yeah I'm really stoked about it
I think 20 mg SD and stano would be a lot of fun
Sorry to here you didn't like hdrol. I liked the gains I made on cycle and was kind of surprised at how well I responded to it
Sounds like a crazy good cycle right there. How is t-var? How does it compare to the old x-tren?
H-Drol was my first ph and I liked it but my training is alot better since than so I need to give it another shot.
Amen to that. I said the same thing
Same for me man that's why I'm giving it another go with stano this time
Ill probably run it end of summer or something. Same as u with stano lol
Can't compare to the old x-tren as I have never used it, but the T-var is amazing. I am on week 4 and am up 12lbs, but I have also noticed a definite decrease in bodyfat. I will be stopping the SD after this week and continuing with the tren and stano for another two. Definitely getting some tren-like sides @ 120mg - my core body temp has been hovering around 99.5, flushed skin, and had night sweats in the beginning but those have stopped. My strength has gone through the roof, and vascularity has undergone a marked improvement. I will definitely be running this cycle again at some point.
What was ur cycle layout?
Really I can't wait to try it. Going to run this.
So when using tvar, is it still necessary to use clomid as ur serm? I have always seen that clomid is used with tren
A serm is necessary for every mythel cycle.
I would do the opposite.
I know a serm is necessary but what I meant was is clomid still used with tvar. Whenever I see a tren cycle, clomid is always used.
Makes more sense to me to have it this way. Try to solidify the gains from the stronger compound.
Ohh my bad lol. That I don't know the answer to.
SD - 20/20/20/20/0/0
Excellent layout. Ill be doing the same but without tvar. I also use torem for every cycle. By far the best serm. Def brings boys back quick. Sounds good brotha.
Looks like a fun cycle and I've been waiting to see some reviews on tvar since its realitively new to the game
I believe that superdrol is the more powerful of the two
but it takes 3 weeks for stano to kick in, which is was i was going to pre load it? not sure what to do now lol
