M-sten vs Superdrol

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Im currently running SD, T-Var, and Stano. Love it!! I will prob never run another cycle without stano.
    Sounds like a crazy good cycle right there. How is t-var? How does it compare to the old x-tren?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by X2006ibm View Post
    running msten and stano here shortly, stoked myself. hope msten is better then hdrol, i was disappointed with hdrol.
    H-Drol was my first ph and I liked it but my training is alot better since than so I need to give it another shot.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Im currently running SD, T-Var, and Stano. Love it!! I will prob never run another cycle without stano.
    Amen to that. I said the same thing
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    H-Drol was my first ph and I liked it but my training is alot better since than so I need to give it another shot.
    Same for me man that's why I'm giving it another go with stano this time

  5. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    Same for me man that's why I'm giving it another go with stano this time
    Ill probably run it end of summer or something. Same as u with stano lol
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post
    Sounds like a crazy good cycle right there. How is t-var? How does it compare to the old x-tren?
    Can't compare to the old x-tren as I have never used it, but the T-var is amazing. I am on week 4 and am up 12lbs, but I have also noticed a definite decrease in bodyfat. I will be stopping the SD after this week and continuing with the tren and stano for another two. Definitely getting some tren-like sides @ 120mg - my core body temp has been hovering around 99.5, flushed skin, and had night sweats in the beginning but those have stopped. My strength has gone through the roof, and vascularity has undergone a marked improvement. I will definitely be running this cycle again at some point.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post

    Can't compare to the old x-tren as I have never used it, but the T-var is amazing. I am on week 4 and am up 12lbs, but I have also noticed a definite decrease in bodyfat. I will be stopping the SD after this week and continuing with the tren and stano for another two. Definitely getting some tren-like sides @ 120mg - my core body temp has been hovering around 99.5, flushed skin, and had night sweats in the beginning but those have stopped. My strength has gone through the roof, and vascularity has undergone a marked improvement. I will definitely be running this cycle again at some point.
    What was ur cycle layout?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Im currently running SD, T-Var, and Stano. Love it!! I will prob never run another cycle without stano.
    Really I can't wait to try it. Going to run this.

    Stano 800/800/800/800/800/800
    Msten 0/0/20/20/20/20.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post

    Can't compare to the old x-tren as I have never used it, but the T-var is amazing. I am on week 4 and am up 12lbs, but I have also noticed a definite decrease in bodyfat. I will be stopping the SD after this week and continuing with the tren and stano for another two. Definitely getting some tren-like sides @ 120mg - my core body temp has been hovering around 99.5, flushed skin, and had night sweats in the beginning but those have stopped. My strength has gone through the roof, and vascularity has undergone a marked improvement. I will definitely be running this cycle again at some point.
    So when using tvar, is it still necessary to use clomid as ur serm? I have always seen that clomid is used with tren

  10. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    So when using tvar, is it still necessary to use clomid as ur serm? I have always seen that clomid is used with tren
    A serm is necessary for every mythel cycle.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by X2006ibm View Post

    Really I can't wait to try it. Going to run this.

    Stano 800/800/800/800/800/800
    Msten 0/0/20/20/20/20.
    I would do the opposite.
    Stano- 0/0/800/800/800/800/800/800
    M-Sten-20/20/20/20/0/0/0/0

    Makes the gains made from M-Sten more maintainable. Just my opinion.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    A serm is necessary for every mythel cycle.
    I know a serm is necessary but what I meant was is clomid still used with tvar. Whenever I see a tren cycle, clomid is always used.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I would do the opposite.
    Stano- 0/0/800/800/800/800/800/800
    M-Sten-20/20/20/20/0/0/0/0

    Makes the gains made from M-Sten more maintainable. Just my opinion.
    Makes more sense to me to have it this way. Try to solidify the gains from the stronger compound.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post
    I know a serm is necessary but what I meant was is clomid still used with tvar. Whenever I see a tren cycle, clomid is always used.
    Ohh my bad lol. That I don't know the answer to.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    What was ur cycle layout?
    SD - 20/20/20/20/0/0
    T-Var - 90/90/90/120/120/120
    Stano - 1k/1k/1k/1k/1k/1k

    As for my SERM, I plan on using Torem. I've had great success with it my last two cycles, with bloodwork returning to normal 4 weeks after PCT both times. I also have prolactin issues so been running .5mg caber E3D as well.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post

    SD - 20/20/20/20/0/0
    T-Var - 90/90/90/120/120/120
    Stano - 1k/1k/1k/1k/1k/1k

    As for my SERM, I plan on using Torem. I've had great success with it my last two cycles, with bloodwork returning to normal 4 weeks after PCT both times. I also have prolactin issues so been running .5mg caber E3D as well.
    Excellent layout. Ill be doing the same but without tvar. I also use torem for every cycle. By far the best serm. Def brings boys back quick. Sounds good brotha.
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  17. back on topic, m-sten at 20mg = 20mg of superdrol or m-sten at 20mg = 30mg of superdrol?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    Excellent layout. Ill be doing the same but without tvar. I also use torem for every cycle. By far the best serm. Def brings boys back quick. Sounds good brotha.
    Looks like a fun cycle and I've been waiting to see some reviews on tvar since its realitively new to the game

  19. Quote Originally Posted by SpotmeyungLad View Post
    back on topic, m-sten at 20mg = 20mg of superdrol or m-sten at 20mg = 30mg of superdrol?
    I believe that superdrol is the more powerful of the two

  20. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post
    Makes more sense to me to have it this way. Try to solidify the gains from the stronger compound.
    but it takes 3 weeks for stano to kick in, which is was i was going to pre load it? not sure what to do now lol

  21. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I would do the opposite.
    Stano- 0/0/800/800/800/800/800/800
    M-Sten-20/20/20/20/0/0/0/0

    Makes the gains made from M-Sten more maintainable. Just my opinion.
    So why not just run like this?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I would do the opposite.
    Stano- 0/0/800/800/800/800/800/800
    M-Sten-20/20/20/20/0/0/0/0

    Makes the gains made from M-Sten more maintainable. Just my opinion.
    THis Looks so ****ing yummy.

    On 20mgs of Msten and 150mg of Xtren,

    ****ing godly as fuuuuuuck

  23. Quote Originally Posted by timmytime13 View Post

    THis Looks so ****ing yummy.

    On 20mgs of Msten and 150mg of Xtren,

    ****ing godly as fuuuuuuck
    Seems like strength would just be insane

  24. Quote Originally Posted by timmytime13 View Post

    THis Looks so ****ing yummy.

    On 20mgs of Msten and 150mg of Xtren,

    ****ing godly as fuuuuuuck
    Lol I felt that emotion

    Niceeeee! I can't F?cking wait
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post
    I know a serm is necessary but what I meant was is clomid still used with tvar. Whenever I see a tren cycle, clomid is always used.
    Just dont use nolva after a tren cycle... ever..

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Viking23 View Post

    Just dont use nolva after a tren cycle... ever..
    That's what I'm seeing but what was the specific reason for not using nolva? Its slipping my mind right now..

  27. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    That's what I'm seeing but what was the specific reason for not using nolva? Its slipping my mind right now..
    im pretty sure its becaise

  28. Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    That's what I'm seeing but what was the specific reason for not using nolva? Its slipping my mind right now..
    im pretty sure its because its a 19 nor and nolva will cause more sensitivity to gyno because tren causes prolactin issues instead of estrogen. Nolva only helps lower your sensitivity to estrogen but increases sensitivity to prolactin. This is just from past research so i might be missing some things, but thats what i remember

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Viking23 View Post
    im pretty sure its because its a 19 nor and nolva will cause more sensitivity to gyno because tren causes prolactin issues instead of estrogen. Nolva only helps lower your sensitivity to estrogen but increases sensitivity to prolactin. This is just from past research so i might be missing some things, but thats what i remember
    OK that helps thanks man
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