With this for OTC PCT what PH do you sugest?

[Broly]

Hi there!

I've ordered a bottle of Erase few months ago and I'm waiting for the best time to use it so I was wondering if I could use it for an OTC PCT since I have no access to SERM's (I live in Europe) and can't use DAA (I have epilepsy and it increases my seizure frequency, the last one was when I was on it), so is there a PH I can use that Erase serves right as one element of an OTC PCT (thinking on the lines of Delta-2, Alpha Bulk, etc)? Also, if so what else could I add to my PCT to those PH considering my situation?

[JD261985]

Maybe M1D black by LG sciences

[Broly]

Maybe M1D black by LG sciences

Contains 5-DHEA wich is a GABA(a) antagonist, wich increases the incindence of seizures on me. This trait is shared for all delta-5-3b-ol steroids, wich makes epiandrosterone another one that I can't take. Any other sugestions guys?

[DangerDave]

Hi there!

I've ordered a bottle of Erase few months ago and I'm waiting for the best time to use it so I was wondering if I could use it for an OTC PCT since I have no access to SERM's (I live in Europe) and can't use DAA (I have epilepsy and it increases my seizure frequency, the last one was when I was on it), so is there a PH I can use that Erase serves right as one element of an OTC PCT (thinking on the lines of Delta-2, Alpha Bulk, etc)? Also, if so what else could I add to my PCT to those PH considering my situation?

You don't need a PH. Build a sick natty stack with erase. There is plenty of natty stuff that will give you amazing results as long as diet and training are legit.

[Broly]

You don't need a PH. Build a sick natty stack with erase. There is plenty of natty stuff that will give you amazing results as long as diet and training are legit.

What can I add then to built such "sick natty stack"?

[Rhadam]

Hi there!

I've ordered a bottle of Erase few months ago and I'm waiting for the best time to use it so I was wondering if I could use it for an OTC PCT since I have no access to SERM's (I live in Europe) and can't use DAA (I have epilepsy and it increases my seizure frequency, the last one was when I was on it), so is there a PH I can use that Erase serves right as one element of an OTC PCT (thinking on the lines of Delta-2, Alpha Bulk, etc)? Also, if so what else could I add to my PCT to those PH considering my situation?

Erase may be a decent substitute for a handfull of Prohormones on the market. You don't have to have a SERM.

[Broly]

Erase may be a decent substitute for a handfull of Prohormones on the market. You don't have to have a SERM.

Hum, that's an interesting point of view. And wich would be the ones who's effects are comparable to the ones of Erase? And yes, I know I don't need it, but the options to it in terms of a solid OTC PCT aren't that much to me.

[DangerDave]

Hum, that's an interesting point of view. And wich would be the ones who's effects are comparable to the ones of Erase? And yes, I know I don't need it, but the options to it in terms of a solid OTC PCT aren't that much to me.

Erase/endosurge stack bridged to formasurge. Or erase/endosurge/anabeta.

No pct required and all gains are keepable.

[Rhadam]

Hum, that's an interesting point of view. And wich would be the ones who's effects are comparable to the ones of Erase? And yes, I know I don't need it, but the options to it in terms of a solid OTC PCT aren't that much to me.

Sorry my post came out weird. What i meant to say was Erase may be a decent substitute for a SERM when run in conjunction with certain prohormones. You don't always have to use a SERM after a steroid cycle. I'd run p-mag/hdrol no problem with an OTC PCT.

[DangerDave]

Sorry my post came out weird. What i meant to say was Erase may be a decent substitute for a SERM when run in conjunction with certain prohormones. You don't always have to use a SERM after a steroid cycle. I'd run p-mag/hdrol no problem with an OTC PCT.

Very true man.

[hvactech]

Sorry my post came out weird. What i meant to say was Erase may be a decent substitute for a SERM when run in conjunction with certain prohormones. You don't always have to use a SERM after a steroid cycle. I'd run p-mag/hdrol no problem with an OTC PCT.

Seriously considering this

[Broly]

Erase/endosurge stack bridged to formasurge. Or erase/endosurge/anabeta.

No pct required and all gains are keepable.

Regarding the add of Anabeta and Endosurge, call me skeptical but I don't buy plant based supplements because I never saw any papers showing their effectiveness. With plant based I mean extracts, wich is all of them contain, not the actuall isolated chemical that appears on lab research.
The Erase bridge to Formasurge sure seems more reliable cycle, but wouldn't it be suppressing estrogen for too long?

[Broly]

Sorry my post came out weird. What i meant to say was Erase may be a decent substitute for a SERM when run in conjunction with certain prohormones. You don't always have to use a SERM after a steroid cycle. I'd run p-mag/hdrol no problem with an OTC PCT.

Oh ok, I understood all the way around. And what would be the OTC PCT in wich Erase would be on it you'd run, considering the DAA restriction? Also, what other PH beside H-drol and P-mag/Mecha (they are about the same) would you feel comfortable to use with such PCT? Is there any wet compound suitable to that PCT?

[uubiduu]

Hi Broly,

you dont need serms for every cycle. There are a lot of oppurtunities where an OTC PCT might be enough. You could run

-Osta RX for 4-8 weeks
-Alpha Mass for 4-6 weeks
-Mechabol for 4 weeks
-11-Oxo/Stanodrol solo or stacked for 4-8 weeks

Have a look into 6-Bromo or Formestane, both solo or stacked with a test bosster like Fadogia.
There are a bunch of possibilities.
The Killer Stack would consist of Osta RX, Erase OR 6-Bromo OR Formestane AND a test bosster

[Broly]

Hi Broly,

you dont need serms for every cycle. There are a lot of oppurtunities where an OTC PCT might be enough. You could run

-Osta RX for 4-8 weeks
-Alpha Mass for 4-6 weeks
-Mechabol for 4 weeks
-11-Oxo/Stanodrol solo or stacked for 4-8 weeks

Have a look into 6-Bromo or Formestane, both solo or stacked with a test bosster like Fadogia.
There are a bunch of possibilities.
The Killer Stack would consist of Osta RX, Erase OR 6-Bromo OR Formestane AND a test bosster

I've used 6-bromo in the past, it's good stuff alright but have had a drop in libido, not as much as with ATD/3-OHAT combo but still some with nice strength gains. Formestane is something that were more appealing to me but since it acts as a light 5a-reductase inhibitor and I like the androgenic feeling that increased testosterone gives me it kind of makes a second option in the department of "standalone AI's to try"

Regarding the PH's and SARM you've mentioned, despite never done a cycle, my favourites are Mechabol because it's an active hormone with no needs to convert into something else and is somewhat more wet than the other 3 you've mentioned and Osta RX because it seems to have less suppressive potential, less hepatoxicity and has the estrogen increase wich is good when it comes to nice lean mass gains. So to those two what's the best dosing and what should I add to Erase for PCT for them?

[Broly]

-Alpha Mass for 4-6 weeks

Wouldn't Alpha Bulk, highly dosed, a better bet for a first since it converts into testosterone, the golden standard of all AAS or is it so light that it would be desapointing?
Honestly I didn't mentioned Alpha Mass, despite I know the lethargy side is a plus for my seizure condition because it's caused du to the fact that 1-androsterone is a GABA(a) agonist (wich does not induce seizures and causes lazyness/lethargy), but I didn't mentioned it due to the libido down side some say it has but never heared if it's that bad like Dienolone and other 19-nor's or just the "normal" libido drop like any other steroid.

[limitless3679]

Hi there!

I've ordered a bottle of Erase few months ago and I'm waiting for the best time to use it so I was wondering if I could use it for an OTC PCT since I have no access to SERM's (I live in Europe) and can't use DAA (I have epilepsy and it increases my seizure frequency, the last one was when I was on it), so is there a PH I can use that Erase serves right as one element of an OTC PCT (thinking on the lines of Delta-2, Alpha Bulk, etc)? Also, if so what else could I add to my PCT to those PH considering my situation?

Lawls, just research and buy a serm.

But since your going to more exspensive way, sh*tter way..

Formasurge or 6-bromo with something like Bulbine would be nice.

[Broly]

Lawls, just research and buy a serm.

But since your going to more exspensive way, sh*tter way..

Formasurge or 6-bromo with something like Bulbine would be nice.

Yeah buddy, done that and talked with friends who've done it. Know what? They got it stuck at the customs! That isn't that simple as it seems, my country laws regarding SERMs are pretty strict even for research purposes I need a document, either from an university or other official entity to justify the SERM's purpose so simply ordering a SERM from a research chemical site isn't enough to get them.

No need to be rude, specially when you don't say nothing related to what the thread is about or don't know my country's laws

[limitless3679]

Yeah buddy, done that and talked with friends who've done it. Know what? They got it stuck at the customs! That isn't that simple as it seems, my country laws regarding SERMs are pretty strict even for research purposes I need a document, either from an university or other official entity to justify the SERM's purpose.

Order again, steroids along with a sh*t load of other stuff get past customs daily. They are also only for research purposes in the USA/UK etc..

You could always join a spanish forum or Portuguese forum build up a reasonable post count and send a sh*tload of pms


I'm not being rude and your country's laws on serms are the same as mine. On a second note, I did contribute.

[Broly]

Order again, steroids along with a sh*t load of other stuff get past customs daily. They are also only for research purposes in the USA/UK etc..

You could always join a spanish forum or Portuguese forum build up a reasonable post count and send a sh*tload of pms


I'm not being rude by the way and your country's laws on serms are the same as mine. On a second note, I did contribute.

Sorry if I missinterpreted the way you posted. I'm not willing to gamble with money just for trying to get one of the SERMs passed right through the customs.

Never trusted any source in here. I've been around many portuguese forums, none of them could show me the origin of the SERMs they get so that I could have the guaranty that it's legit, so I end up at where I've started.

Sorry if I missinterpreted the way you posted, didn't meant to be offensive. Do you mind I ask wich country are you from? And no you didn't, the thread isn't about SERMs or it's use is about the possibility to use Erase as an OTC PCT, SERM's aren't the main subject of discussion here.