With this for OTC PCT what PH do you sugest?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    So how was your cycle structured in terms of amount of Osta RX pills per day in each week of that 5 week period? How were the gains and the sides?
    ran the last 18 days at 3 caps mate. before at 2 caps per day. sides were not existant, gains were very subtle. not the best compound for strength gains though. wouldnt run it less than 8 weeks and less than 3 caps!!!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    ran the last 18 days at 3 caps mate. before at 2 caps per day. sides were not existant, gains were very subtle. not the best compound for strength gains though. wouldnt run it less than 8 weeks and less than 3 caps!!!
    Hum, sounds pretty neat regarding the side effect-free status you give to it, but still with such subtle gains kind of makes me wonder what would be the next best thing right close to it?
    I'm currently training for strength (5x5 aproach) but some lean size is always welcomed since it helps with strength too, so next to Osta RX in the ranks, considering the lightness of the PCT I have, what else would you advise me to?
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  3. alphamass or mechabol for 4 weeks mate

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Sorry my post came out weird. What i meant to say was Erase may be a decent substitute for a SERM when run in conjunction with certain prohormones. You don't always have to use a SERM after a steroid cycle. I'd run p-mag/hdrol no problem with an OTC PCT.
    hdrol... but at what dose and for how long max?

    I know everyone is different but it seems like the golden rule is +5 wks @ 75= SERM. I'm doing and hella/ 4ad (AMS RDe) run right now and may try OTC for a 5-6 week @ 75mg. Doesn't seem so out of reach but I will have Nolva on hand because its my first "actual" suppressive cycle.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Sorry my post came out weird. What i meant to say was Erase may be a decent substitute for a SERM when run in conjunction with certain prohormones. You don't always have to use a SERM after a steroid cycle. I'd run p-mag/hdrol no problem with an OTC PCT.
    This.
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  6. 6 weeks of hdrol at 50/75/75/75/75/75-100 will give you great gains with minimal shutdown. Id have some other test booster on hand as people say erase tends to crush libido. This was not my experience tho..

  7. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    alphamass or mechabol for 4 weeks mate
    ehhhh. mecha should be ran longer than 4 weeks
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    alphamass or mechabol for 4 weeks mate
    Each at what dose? And about Mass AD, is it what I think it is?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    Hi there!

    I've ordered a bottle of Erase few months ago and I'm waiting for the best time to use it so I was wondering if I could use it for an OTC PCT since I have no access to SERM's (I live in Europe) and can't use DAA (I have epilepsy and it increases my seizure frequency, the last one was when I was on it), so is there a PH I can use that Erase serves right as one element of an OTC PCT (thinking on the lines of Delta-2, Alpha Bulk, etc)? Also, if so what else could I add to my PCT to those PH considering my situation?
    I would look into frl or ams stuff.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I would look into frl or ams stuff.
    Alpha Mass and Alpha Bulk have been talked here earlier in this thread mate
    Btw what's your opinion? I'm thinking of a solo compound not stacking as it is my first cycle

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    Each at what dose? And about Mass AD, is it what I think it is?
    Hi Broly,

    i contacted the supplier and got the following answer back:



    Non Methylated compound, Metabolite of the naturally occuring DHEA, potent androgenic effects, as this compound is non methylated it can (and is usually recommended) to be stacked alongside other compounds. Lean gains are to be expected with 1-androsterone, the gains are not usually noticeable for around 2 weeks , due to the non 17a and long ‘kick in’ time it can be ran for 6-8 weeks for the best gains. if stacking with another compound stick with a 4 week cycle. It should be noted 1-Androsterone is more geared towards users looking for an increase in strengh than a change iin physical appeareance.

    So its 1-DHEA and NOT the thing you and probably me was thinking at first. This means you can do this product but you can also do AlphaMass which certainly has more reputation along the boards. Its up to you. I voted for the Mass AD because of a very good deal i was offered at the supplement shop.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Hi Broly,

    i contacted the supplier and got the following answer back:



    Non Methylated compound, Metabolite of the naturally occuring DHEA, potent androgenic effects, as this compound is non methylated it can (and is usually recommended) to be stacked alongside other compounds. Lean gains are to be expected with 1-androsterone, the gains are not usually noticeable for around 2 weeks , due to the non 17a and long ‘kick in’ time it can be ran for 6-8 weeks for the best gains. if stacking with another compound stick with a 4 week cycle. It should be noted 1-Androsterone is more geared towards users looking for an increase in strengh than a change iin physical appeareance.

    So its 1-DHEA and NOT the thing you and probably me was thinking at first. This means you can do this product but you can also do AlphaMass which certainly has more reputation along the boards. Its up to you. I voted for the Mass AD because of a very good deal i was offered at the supplement shop.
    Thanks for the research you've done! All the websites I saw it being sold it never apears with the label tell either the substance nor the dosing of it, just a plain description that it's a compound that converts into 1-testosterone. I really thought it was 1-adiol, but since it's another product with 1-androsterone I'll go, as you said, for the one that shows the best price:dosing ratio.
    Other thing that's worth to look at is if it has any ester attached to the 3b-ol in the Mass AD as it is in the Alpha Mass, since the ester hinders the sulfatation of the molecule by the sulfotransferase enzymes, wich reduces the amount of 1-androsterone that can be converted by the 3b-HSD and 17b-HSD enzymes, thus making it more bioavailable. If Mass AD has this esterified 1-androsterone but with a higher dose I kind of changes the rules of the game for Alpha Mass

  13. if youre us i would go with the alphamass 6caps for 4 weeks.otc pct should be a breeze

  14. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    if youre us i would go with the alphamass 6caps for 4 weeks.otc pct should be a breeze
    Hum, sounds pretty good to me too OTC PCT would be Erase at what dose plus what?
    Btw, how is going your run with 1-androsterone regarding gains and sides...it's almost 2 weeks in no?

  15. erase 2-3 caps per day plus test booster of choice! make 4-6 weeks of PCT.
    have good strength gains from day 10 on. feel better in the meanwhile considering sides

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Broly View Post
    Alpha Mass and Alpha Bulk have been talked here earlier in this thread mate
    Btw what's your opinion? I'm thinking of a solo compound not stacking as it is my first cycle
    I gained ~12lbs off Alpha Mass solo.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    erase 2-3 caps per day plus test booster of choice! make 4-6 weeks of PCT.
    have good strength gains from day 10 on. feel better in the meanwhile considering sides
    Thanks
    Hum, nice! Perhaps most of them might be on the lipid values and blood pressure (sides that we can't actually feel, perhaps high bp but you know what I mean).

  18. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I gained ~12lbs off Alpha Mass solo.
    What were the time on and the dosing? And how have you done the PCT?
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