Torem was always my go to serm. Balls got big in two days with random woodies. Never looked back at going to clomid again.
My Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/232379-halfhuman-ironflex-ultra.html
Wrong. Lexapro inhibits both metabolic pathways. I have said this before and will say it again. PH/AAS should not be used in conjunction with anti-depressants. I'm not trying to be a dick lol but it's easy to see. While being treated for social/anxiety/depression issues, why would a person take hormone modulating products at the same time.Originally Posted by Veritatis
Do you think if you took your PCT assist type product that contains Milk Thistle far away from the dosing of the Torem it would be okay?
There are a few of those all in one type PCT products that look really good but most contain milk thistle or piperine....
ex: PCT Assist, AD-3, PCT Revolution Black..
Reboot and Testodrol X9 look good and don't appear to contain anything that interferes with SERMS.
My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.
I just read that lexapro is not an inhibitor what so ever so I dont know who to believe at this point. There are more drugs for pct than just nolva , clomid and torem just saying. If ppl are going to tell me what doesn't work I would appreciate hearing what does. Just read someone's post who said he takes lexapro and nolva and recovers perfectly in PCT. So who's right and who's wrong here
Edit: lexapro inhibition of CYP2D6 is weak and doesnt seem to effect Tamoxs effectivness...
Ok final statement. I just read an Oxford journal report stating that lexapro and effexor are NOT inhibitors from oxfordjournals.org
Just Google lexapro cyp2d6 inhibitor and clickk on link tomoxifen, antidepressants and CYP2D6
Google the full PI for lexapro. In table 12 you will see the pathway metabolization info. it goes through the liver through both the CYPs. Also check the drug interaction section in table 7. FYI if any of you guys are every looking for info on certain prescription drugs, just google the PI for the said product. Its all in there
The FDA doesn't monitor research chemicals because as you know, they are not intended for human consumption. If anything the FDA over regulates drugs.Originally Posted by rayjay
Oh and also after doing some more research I'm coming under the impression that exemstane and arimidex are superior pct products to nolvadex. Any thoughts? Maybe an aromasin/torem stack would be a great pct for someone using lexapro or maybe just an AI. Could an AI alone act as a pct product to get everything back to normal?
escitalopram doesnt inhibit CYP3A4 it is metabolized by it ie it may compete for binding with all three serms. This could potentially decrease effectiveness depending on substrate concentration, but it wont stop the enzyme from doing its job... Which I believe is the more serious issue, but in all honesty there are some many variables to be accounted for...
Exactly. So it comes down to this... DONT MIX ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND STEROIDS LOL. ITS DUMB.Originally Posted by Veritatis