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    I know, it isn't really, but people have been asking me why I'm so hyper haha. I'll give you a macro breakdown: 250 grams protein, 200 grams carbs, about 60 grams of fat, everything totalling 2350 calories-250 calories from fasted cardio this morning so about a 750 deficit. Doing cardio allows me to get more grams of protein in from the increased amount of calories I'm allowed to take in.

    I'm going to do a refeed on Saturday, so how does this look? My maintenance right now is 2853:

    500 grams carbs, 200 grams protein, 40-50 grams of fat, about 400 above maintenance. Last refeed until new years. Looking flat as a pancake right now, but no strength loss. Anything you would tweak?
    No that looks fine for a re-feed. Personally I refeed once a week usually on a heavy Leg day during a cut, that way the glycogen gets used up a little more quickly and for the biggest bodypart...Legs. Other then that your diet looks good, if you stall on fat loss increase cardio by 5min each week or drop 25 carbs every 2 weeks until you are at 125gr carbs per day.

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    If dosing like this, is there any need for some sort of thyroid pct? I did buy "T3 PCT" which is B-12, zinc, selenium, copper, Ashwagandha, Cayenne Pepper

    the manufacturer states:
    "T3 PCT was formulated to revive proper thyroid function/thyroid hormone production and help battle chronic fatigue. This formula has PLENTY of documentation as you can see which lets you know that we did our homework to come out with the most potent thyroid hormone revitalizer to the market"
    You don't need to reboot the thyriod as it will come back to normal function in time as long as you taper off the T3 properly. Im assuming since your asking you dont know how to properly taper off T3?
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    No, I understand tapering. Just was looking for opinions on that thyroid product
    But it seems everybody has a different opinion on T3 cycles, tapering, mcgs, recovery, etc
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    Update: I have already lost 3 lbs in 5 days this week. I need to slow down.
    I am flat and not holding much water but rather safe than sorry.

    Lowering t3 back to 50 mcg.
    Eating 700 under maintenance with 200g carbs/250g protein now.
    Extending cycle 5 more days and gonna try to finish the bottle of clen.
    Target weight is 155 not glycogen depleted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    Update: I have already lost 3 lbs in 5 days this week. I need to slow down.
    I am flat and not holding much water but rather safe than sorry.

    Lowering t3 back to 50 mcg.
    Eating 700 under maintenance with 200g carbs/250g protein now.
    Extending cycle 5 more days and gonna try to finish the bottle of clen.
    Target weight is 155 not glycogen depleted.
    Yea 3lbs in 5 days is a little excessive. Maybe bump calories to only 500 under maintenance for now, and lower the T3 to 25mcg's. As far as clen keep the dosage anywhere between 80-120mcg's then taper back down. Just my input!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlefry View Post
    Yea 3lbs in 5 days is a little excessive. Maybe bump calories to only 500 under maintenance for now, and lower the T3 to 25mcg's. As far as clen keep the dosage anywhere between 80-120mcg's then taper back down. Just my input!
    Thanks, only ate 500 under maintenance today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post

    Thanks, only ate 500 under maintenance today.
    hey man, does the t3 ever make you feel like you're cracked out? Maybe I took too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    hey man, does the t3 ever make you feel like you're cracked out? Maybe I took too much
    No not at all I barely feel anything even at 75 mcg.

    Update: Going to refeed tomorrow with 3500-3700 calories to speed up metabolism
    Gonna try to hit 500-600 grams of carbs, 160-200 protein, 50-60 fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    hey man, does the t3 ever make you feel like you're cracked out? Maybe I took too much
    T3 should not give you a "cracked" out feeling at all. Clen might do this to some degree but not T3. What were you dosing the T3 at? Maybe your body is just not responding well to the dose of T3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    No not at all I barely feel anything even at 75 mcg.

    Update: Going to refeed tomorrow with 3500-3700 calories to speed up metabolism
    Gonna try to hit 500-600 grams of carbs, 160-200 protein, 50-60 fat.
    That looks good, muscle should be full and hard after a re-feed like that.
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    Update: 165 lbs flat this morning, -3 lbs from last week. Carbing up right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    Dang bro, you're extremely lucky. I'd kill to be running SD with this right now but couldn't pick any up before the ban. Here's what I would do:

    SD 10/10/10/10/10? if you can handle it
    Tzone: 2/2/2/2/2/2

    I've seen people cut with SD and t3 before at 10 mg and have had great results and no muscle loss. Mlmg might be counterproductive with t3 because it is more of a bulker.
    SD 10mg for 5 weeks was good. Except I bumped it to 20mgs the last week and was insane in the gym! lol.
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    Wow, I just ate like 250 grams of carbs and I'm super hard, lean, and vasular. Loving this carb up
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    I've eaten well over 4000 calories today. Last carb up/cheat day for 10 days. Not expecting any fat gain cuz my glycogen stores are all refilled ( human body has 375-475g glycogen) which is about 1500 calories to fill them back up plus my maintenance is 2850.
    These last 20 days of my diet are going to be hell. Going 800 under maintenance on workout days with no more than 125g carbs and 850 under maintenance on non workout days with no more than 50g carbs. Gonna make these last 20 days count!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    I've eaten well over 4000 calories today. Last carb up/cheat day for 10 days. Not expecting any fat gain cuz my glycogen stores are all refilled ( human body has 375-475g glycogen) which is about 1500 calories to fill them back up plus my maintenance is 2850.
    These last 20 days of my diet are going to be hell. Going 800 under maintenance on workout days with no more than 125g carbs and 850 under maintenance on non workout days with no more than 50g carbs. Gonna make these last 20 days count!
    Let's hope you can retain as much lbm as possible!
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    I hope so. I have ostarine coming in the mail and leftover msten for workout days
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    I hope so. I have ostarine coming in the mail and leftover msten for workout days
    Man I'm jelly....
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    Woke up at 169 today and still am extremely full and hard- 4 lb gain from yesterday. It looks like I have lost no muscle mass! For some reason, the fat is sticking on my stomach but coming off of my quads. Waste is down an inch to 30. Hopefully, these last three weeks will give me some fat loss in the love handle and lower ab region, where my fat is really most prominent. Also, I would love to lose another inch off of my waste in these next 3 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    Woke up at 169 today and still am extremely full and hard- 4 lb gain from yesterday. It looks like I have lost no muscle mass! For some reason, the fat is sticking on my stomach but coming off of my quads. Waste is down an inch to 30. Hopefully, these last three weeks will give me some fat loss in the love handle and lower ab region, where my fat is really most prominent. Also, I would love to lose another inch off of my waste in these next 3 weeks.
    That all sounds great bud. Whats your dosing scheme for the Trenazone, T3, and clen look like for these last 3 weeks? Also as a side note besides watching diet and cardio the only supplement I have found worthy of helping reduce a little bit of fat from the mid-section is cortisol control products such as Lean-Extreme and products of that nature. If your really having trouble in that area might want to look into a product like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlefry View Post
    That all sounds great bud. Whats your dosing scheme for the Trenazone, T3, and clen look like for these last 3 weeks? Also as a side note besides watching diet and cardio the only supplement I have found worthy of helping reduce a little bit of fat from the mid-section is cortisol control products such as Lean-Extreme and products of that nature. If your really having trouble in that area might want to look into a product like that.
    Gonna run 160 mcg clen with 100 mg benadryl and 75 mg/day t3. Also gonna start running ostarine on Friday. Some of the fat is coming off because my waist is smaller, it's not that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post

    Gonna run 160 mcg clen with 100 mg benadryl and 75 mg/day t3. Also gonna start running ostarine on Friday. Some of the fat is coming off because my waist is smaller, it's not that bad.
    Sounds like your doing pretty good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Sounds like your doing pretty good!
    My pants were falling down all day so somethings going right
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    Update: off clen til next Saturday, taking ephedra with red bulls Taking 25 mcgs t3 2x/day.
    T3 is keeping metabolism fast
    I got extremely flat 2 days after carb up.
    Next carb up on Xmas and weigh-in Saturday
    I'm at 700 below maintenance daily
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    Update: off clen til next Saturday, taking ephedra with red bulls Taking 25 mcgs t3 2x/day.
    T3 is keeping metabolism fast
    I got extremely flat 2 days after carb up.
    Next carb up on Xmas and weigh-in Saturday
    I'm at 700 below maintenance daily
    Dont worry about feeling flat. That is most likely due to lower carbs, and the T3 as well. T3 can leave you pretty flat in general, unless you are running a fairly high carb diet or carbing up!
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    Hey guys, I don't want you to be mad, but I need your support right now. I currently live at home and am only 19. Yes, I started too young, but I am training to compete.
    2 days ago, my mom was snooping through my closet and found the msten...**** my life. I was not careful enough, but I still have the trenazone and t3. I have been so disappointed in my parents for overreacting about this that I have not been able to sleep in 2 days.
    I still have hidden: 2 bottles tzone, ostarine, clomid, T3,
    Clen.
    Since I have been awake for 48 hours my diet was good 2 days ago, but I could not sleep last night so I consumed 1000 extra calories between 10 pm and 6 am. I ate 100 grams of protein at 7 pm this morning with 1000 calories and fasting until 8 tonight and gonna eat
    100g more protein with 500 calories and then try to get some sleep.
    My parents might try to ruin my pride, but I won't dissappoint myself or you guys.
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    Also, Inclined 205x6 yesterday so no strength loss. Only noticed an endurance loss.
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    Update: just ate 250-300g carbs, feelsgoodman.
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    Parents just don't understand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    19? Bro....
    19 and proud bro regret nothing. More dedicated than most 19 year olds and that's gonna show when I start competing.

    Carbing up as I type this, its been 5 days and neighbor just brought over cookies. Next carb up is next Friday.

    Going to apply to In N Out today, gonna be nice and full.
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    It's more to do with physical maturation, not mental.
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    Trek,
    I have the same fat sticking to me. Lightly though. I can kinda see my obliques and abs but even just a pair of shorts it seems to appear I have a bit of love handles. I'm running Methastadrol now. Half way through and guess what I came across...
    120ml Clen 60ml t3 and 120 of clomid for $50.
    Anyways,
    i been keeping my eye on these two (t3 and Clen) for a while. Been doing my research because they expire 4/13. Witch isn't too bad.

    I want to finish this cycle at of Methastadrol at 30mg and possibly extend it with a fade down to 10mg and jump on Clen and t3.
    What do you guys think?
    And suggestions?
    And what is the beneficial value of preloading bynadrel and running it with t3?
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    Is it the same concept with the receptors while taking Clen to deal with toleration. 19 is a bit young man. I just started this extra step/leap into "bodybuilding" maybe a year ago and I believe I started early, along with many others presume. But be safe. If there is support sups out of your stack, you better get them bro. Your parents may not understand your motives, but they care for you and probably had equal feelings to your "2 day insomnia" but 2x worse. I just yelled at my three year old the other day because he ran off with a candy cane in his room. I searched his entire room. Do you think I did this because I didn't want him having it? Because I didn't want him having sugar at night? Because he is not allowed to enjoy Holliday candy like that. NO!!! He is simply to protecct him, if he got hurt with it I would be in grief over it for a long time. Just a metaphor for you. Be careful please :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    It's more to do with physical maturation, not mental.
    Plates have been closed since I was 14, as my growth records have shown that I have not grown a single mm since I was 14 so I'm not worried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSHOT0089 View Post
    Trek,
    I have the same fat sticking to me.
    Lightly though. I can kinda see my obliques and abs but even just a pair of shorts it seems to appear I have a bit of love handles. I'm running Methastadrol now. Half way through and guess what I came across...
    120ml Clen 60ml t3 and 120 of clomid for $50.
    Anyways,
    i been keeping my eye on these two (t3 and Clen) for a while. Been doing my research because they expire 4/13. Witch isn't too bad.

    I want to finish this cycle at of Methastadrol at 30mg and possibly extend it with a fade down to 10mg and jump on Clen and t3.
    What do you guys think?
    And suggestions?
    And what is the beneficial value of preloading bynadrel and running it with t3?
    I say you want should run the clen and t3. I would not go over 75 mcgs a day of t3. As for the clen, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off unless you have ketotifen. Benadryl does NOTHING for clenbuterol, and I know this from personal experience. Lets say you were gonna run clen/t3 4 weeks. I have found my sweet spot of clen to be 160 mcg and t3 at 50 mcg. Also, you might be able to adjust your t3 dosage to the higher end because you have mdrol, one of the strongest forms of gear in existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSHOT0089 View Post
    Is it the same concept with the receptors while taking Clen to dealwith toleration. 19 is a bit young man. I just started this extra step/leap into "bodybuilding" maybe a year ago and I believe I started early, along with many others presume. But be safe. If there is support sups out of your stack, you better get them bro. Your parents may not understand your motives, but they care for you and probably had equal feelings to your "2 day insomnia" but 2x worse. I just yelled at my three year old the other day because he ran off with a candy cane in his room. I searched his entire room. Do you think I did this because I didn't want him having it? Because I didn't want him having sugar at night? Because he is not allowed to enjoy Holliday candy like that. NO!!! He is simply to protecct him, if he got hurt with it I would be in grief over it for a long time. Just a metaphor for you. Be careful please :-)
    Yeah I understand, it's just that I'm not trying to harm anyone, gonna start working full time, and just simply doing what I love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    I say you want should run the clen and t3. I would not go over 75 mcgs a day of t3. As for the clen, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off unless you have ketotifen. Benadryl does NOTHING for clenbuterol, and I know this from personal experience. Lets say you were gonna run clen/t3 4 weeks. I have found my sweet spot of clen to be 160 mcg and t3 at 50 mcg. Also, you might be able to adjust your t3 dosage to the higher end because you have mdrol, one of the strongest forms of gear in existence.
    THANK YOU...
    someone finally responded...
    yeah,
    i want to finish the one bottle of 90 caps.. then when i open the new one i will taper down to 10 mg. over a span of 4 days (for peice of mind) and begin the clen and t3... it may help bring back prostate workings too... im excited about the t3. but not to excited to be catabolic. Going to be main-lining freaking Glutamine for extra support. I swear by that stuff. You are right! this is def. my fav... wish i bought more.... the person has BEAST though but more $ Right now i can eat just about 300+ protein and 200 carbs (witch is a lot for me usually) with absolutely no fat gain. I ran halo-plex for 2.5 months w/o any support besided test and liver support. here is a chart a found for a t3/clen although its from 2005 i beleive i will use these figures to start with till i find my sweet spots. Of cource unless i am recommended otherwise.
    >Day 1 clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day 2 clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day 3 clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day 4 clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day 5 clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day 6 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day 7 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day 8 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day 9 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day10 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day11 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day12 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day13 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day14 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day15 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day16 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day17 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day18 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day19 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day20 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day21 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day22 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day23 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day24 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day25 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day26 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day27 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day28 clen off / T3 100mcg
    >Day29 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day30 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day31 clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day32 clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day33 clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day34 clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day35 clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day36 clen off / T3 50mcg
    >Day37 clen off / T3 50mcg
    >Day38 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day39 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day40 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day41 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day42 clen off / T3 25mcg
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSHOT0089 View Post
    THANK YOU...
    someone finally responded...
    yeah,
    i want to finish the one bottle of 90 caps.. then when i open the new one i will taper down to 10 mg. over a span of 4 days (for peice of mind) and begin the clen and t3... it may help bring back prostate workings too... im excited about the t3. but not to excited to be catabolic. Going to be main-lining freaking Glutamine for extra support. I swear by that stuff. You are right! this is def. my fav... wish i bought more.... the person has BEAST
    though but more $ Right now i can eat just about 300+ protein and 200 carbs (witch is a lot for me usually) with absolutely no fat gain. I ran halo-plex for 2.5 months w/o any support besided test and liver support. here is a chart a found for a t3/clen although its from 2005 i beleive i will use these figures to start with till i find my sweet spots. Of cource unless i am recommended otherwise.
    >Day 1 clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day 2 clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day 3 clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day 4 clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day 5 clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day 6 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day 7 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day 8 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day 9 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day10 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day11 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day12 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day13 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day14 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day15 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day16 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day17 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day18 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day19 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day20 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day21 clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
    >Day22 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day23 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day24 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day25 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day26 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day27 clen off / T3 125mcg
    >Day28 clen off / T3 100mcg
    >Day29 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day30 clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
    >Day31 clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day32 clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day33 clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    >Day34 clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day35 clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
    >Day36 clen off / T3 50mcg
    >Day37 clen off / T3 50mcg
    >Day38 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day39 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day40 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day41 clen off / T3 25mcg
    >Day42 clen off / T3 25mcg
    Prop 100 mg ed thruout.
    100 mg prop ed?? I don't know why you think you'd be catabolic. You could actually gain some mass at that dose even with t3.

    If I were ever to run t3 again, I would run it with 500-700mg/test a week and some tren.
    Also, I'm no medical professional and you shouldn't take my advice, but I would recommend going up to 160-200 mcg clen every day if you can tolerate it. I got clen from a very reputable research company (don't know if I can name them here) and was able to go up to 200 mcg without any horrible sides. Other than that, I would say your t3 dosage looks great. Depending on your goals and how much fat you have to lose, you could shorten the taper if it is absolutely necessary.

    If I had an estimate, I would say that I have lost 3-4% bodyfat in the 5-6 weeks that I have been running clen and t3, and this is just with a moderate dose of t3. You have a lot to look forward to bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trekofstarsx View Post
    100 mg prop ed?? I don't know why you think you'd be catabolic. You could actually gain some mass at that dose even with t3.

    If I were ever to run t3 again, I would run it with 500-700mg/test a week and some tren.
    Also, I'm no medical professional and you shouldn't take my advice, but I would recommend going up to 160-200 mcg clen every day if you can tolerate it. I got clen from a very reputable research company (don't know if I can name them here) and was able to go up to 200 mcg without any horrible sides. Other than that, I would say your t3 dosage looks great. Depending on your goals and how much fat you have to lose, you could shorten the taper if it is absolutely necessary.

    If I had an estimate, I would say that I have lost 3-4% bodyfat in the 5-6 weeks that I have been running clen and t3, and this is just with a moderate dose of t3. You have a lot to look forward to bro.
    well, i have no idea what that last string is... i have no idea what my bp is, i need calipars... i just wanna get a cut going on with some extra support and without loosing all these gains. i beleive i start the week out with the above chart and use the third week to raise it little by little to i hit where im comftorable and back it down 40-60mcg not only will it still be working but it will stretch the clen out... allthough i do have two bottles... idk... im excited, really excited about this "raised metabolism" hoping that will work wonders with the SD clone. Should i start clomid when i make the switch or wait? i have had no sides what so ever so far and im almost 3 weeks in. Actually, i have never had sides on any gear. Its like i was built for it my lobito has been through the roof but im hammering herbal text like crazy. when my girl want sex, SHE WANTS SEX, AND NOW, FOR HOURS so i can just keep her out of this stack. lol
    Also, for future because i like to be prepared... i found a bottle of Finaflex 550 (SD+TREN) i want it !!!! $80 is it worth it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKSHOT0089 View Post
    well, i have no idea what that last string is... i have no idea what my bp is, i need calipars... i just wanna get a cut going on with some extra support and without loosing all these gains. i beleive i start the week out with the above chart and use the third week to raise it little by little to i hit where im comftorable and back it down 40-60mcg not only will it still be working but it will stretch the clen out... allthough i do have two bottles... idk... im excited, really excited about this "raised metabolism" hoping that will work wonders with the SD clone. Should i start clomid when i make the switch or wait? i have had no sides what so ever so far and im almost 3 weeks in. Actually, i have never had sides on any gear. Its like i was built for it my lobito has been through the roof but im hammering herbal text like crazy. when my girl want sex, SHE WANTS SEX, AND NOW, FOR HOURS so i can just keep her out of this stack. lol
    Also, for future because i like to be prepared... i found a bottle of Finaflex 550 (SD+TREN) i want it !!!! $80 is it worth it?
    Haha your lucky bro I wish I had a girl who liked me who I could shag but I'm still a virgin (forever alone haha) :/ I felt the same level of increased hornyness on ultradrol but got extremely frustrated cuz there was no one to help me .

    You should only run the clomid when you are actually coming off cycle with no exogenous hormones being put into your body.

    Also, you should try to stock up on as much sd as possible regardless of what form it's in cuz it's pretty much gone for good.
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    One thing I forgot to say, the whole Clen recepter down regulation take a break opinion is a myth.

    pubmed/16962470

    Cycling it is actually somewhat worse, as you will continuously ride through the sides.

    Your body adjusts to the side effects. Not the substance itself.


    Clen's effects remain the same though its sides disappear.

    "Seven subjects with heart failure (5 ischemic, 2 non-ischemic) were started on oral clenbuterol 5 to 46 weeks post-LVAD implantation and up-titrated to daily doses of 720 microg. The following procedures were performed at baseline and after 3 months of therapy: echocardiography at reduced support (4 liters/min); cardiopulmonary exercise testing; body composition analysis; and quadriceps maximal voluntary contraction (MVC). Myocardial histologic analysis was measured at device implantation and explantation.

    PATIENTS WITH HEART FAILURE ARE GIVEN 720mcg of CLENBUTEROL TO HELP THEM RECOVER.

    They didn't start on 720mcg, they built up to it. Its actually a well known protocol, developed in the UK and called the Harefield Protocol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limitless3679 View Post
    One thing I forgot to say, the whole Clen recepter down regulation take a break opinion is a myth.

    pubmed/16962470

    Cycling it is actually somewhat worse, as you will continuously ride through the sides.

    Your body adjusts to the side effects. Not the substance itself.


    Clen's effects remain the same though its sides disappear.

    "Seven subjects with heart failure (5 ischemic, 2 non-ischemic) were started on oral clenbuterol 5 to 46 weeks post-LVAD implantation and up-titrated to daily doses of 720 microg. The following procedures were performed at baseline and after 3 months of therapy: echocardiography at reduced support (4 liters/min); cardiopulmonary exercise testing; body composition analysis; and quadriceps maximal voluntary contraction (MVC). Myocardial histologic analysis was measured at device implantation and explantation.

    PATIENTS WITH HEART FAILURE ARE GIVEN 720mcg of CLENBUTEROL TO HELP THEM RECOVER.

    They didn't start on 720mcg, they built up to it. Its actually a well known protocol, developed in the UK and called the Harefield Protocol.
    hmmm, interesting... I understand... if i ran say 6 weeks and worked my way up to 200mcg... will you get the same effects on day 42 as i would when yi had hit 200? just courous... or is 720 a max to go by.... jesus thats a lot... will my body get adapt per say to the sides including blood pressure?
  

  
 

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