upcoming test SD cycle
- 11-20-2012, 11:44 PM
- 11-21-2012, 03:32 AM
Might be shunned for this one but I'd say 12 weeks with a good diet would be best.
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11-21-2012, 07:54 AM
Stats? Test e for 12wks at 500 is what i did my last cycle. If the gear is accurately dosed this is sufficient to the say the least.
11-21-2012, 08:45 AM
22 years old 5 '8" 157 lbs 8-10% bf (this is just a visual guess) been lifting for 3 years. Want a good lean bulk, obviously minor fat gain is inevitable but would like to be minimal. Will be using Layne Nortans (phat) for my workout program, and LG for my diet.
11-21-2012, 08:25 PM
So I take it you found a source that didn't rip you off this time?? Lol 500mg for 12 weeks is the go man. I'd rather be on for longer that use more for shorter. 22 is a bit young IMO but I've seen plenty of younger fellas cycle that haven't had any long term effects so kill it bro!Originally Posted by live to lift
11-21-2012, 09:41 PM
Thanks bro and yea the guy finally came through after i gave him money 9 weeks ago cant complain though its given me more time to adjust my diet and order everythingOriginally Posted by Lukef2000
11-24-2012, 12:30 AM
Alright just got my letro and nolva let me know if you guys think i missed anything. Im running tight on cash with the holidays here but this is what all i have on hand for my upcoming cycle. 4 bottles AI cycle support, 2 bottles taurine, 1 bottle beastdrol (SD), 30 ml Test E 200mg/ml, 1 bottle tamoxifen citrate(Nolvadex), 1 bottle letro, 1 bottle nolvadren xt, 1 bottle DAA, 3 tubs of dat der Celltech(i know everyone hates muscletech, but i like there products), and 1 bottle of hgh pro. And then i have all my staples fishoil, multis, prot. Etc. Im just waiting for my needles to come in i am drawing with an 18 and pinning with a 23 ga. So guys what do you think?
11-24-2012, 07:20 AM
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11-24-2012, 05:18 PM
Letro will absolutely crush your estrogen to the point it will hinder gains and dry up your joints. I'd save letro in case of itchy nips / gyno reversal. If your having problems sourcing an AI just use an OTC like erase. I thought I'd try erase on my cycle ( I had aromasin as a backup ) and it seemed to keep it under control. Still have an unopened bottle of aromasin. Erase is cheap tooOriginally Posted by live to lift
11-24-2012, 07:04 PM
I've been told its really important to taper the dose down when you're finishing letro because its not a "suicide" inhibitor and will cause an estrogen rebound if stopped abruptly
11-24-2012, 07:15 PM
11-24-2012, 10:09 PM
I was gonna run .5mg eod through cycle if symptoms occurred. From what i have read real low doses work well as an ai on cycle
11-24-2012, 11:22 PM
I would definitely stay away from Letro. It's very unnecessary. Grab A bottle if erase pro and that would be perfect to run. Luke basically said it his it is, Letro will just be too much. IMO I would rather not run an AI at all and see how you react, and save te Letro if any e2 sides arise.Originally Posted by live to lift
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11-24-2012, 11:32 PM
Why is Letro too much? Where is it shown to "kill gains"?
If he has the Letro already, I don't see why he should go out and purchase more of anything? Especially if there's nothing showing it WILL be powerful enough to stop gyno?
I will agree, if there's no pre-existing gyno, there is no need to run any AI while on until estro problems arise. A lot of people get worried TOO much about possible gyno but 500mg of test on its own, & done correctly. Probably not going to affect anything. There's always the possibility, that's why something like Letro is great to have on hand "in-case"
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11-25-2012, 12:01 AM
That was my thinking as well i have no plans on using the letro it is an in case estro problems arise only part of my cycle
11-25-2012, 12:17 AM
There are people like me out there... I had pubertal gyno and it was aggravated by DAA (prolactin?). It was then extremely pissed of on the "non-aromatizing" hdrol, and the lumps and sensitivity occurred when switching to just Alpha Bulk, a 4-DHEA... Sometimes a low dose of letro isn't such a bad thing.
Also, I held off TOO long on starting a "real" AI because everyone talked down my symptoms until I began harvesting a real decent rack that couldn't be attributed to any level of paranoia... And sometimes ERASE isn't going to cut it.
11-25-2012, 02:17 AM
Formeron was real cheap couple of days ago, it is a good topical suicidal ai though pricier than erase. It would be a great middle ground between letro and erase.
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11-25-2012, 10:33 AM
I appriciate all the feedback but im just going to use low dosed letro if any estro occurs. So other than my ai does everything else look solid and g2g?
11-25-2012, 03:24 PM
I believe everything looks good to go bro. Lay out your cycle ad pct exactly how you want to run it and we ca critique even further. Test and SD are seriously an amazing combo. I just finished this same cycle about 2 months ago. My suggestion get bloods done towards the end of your cycle ad if your liver values are fine throw SD I at the end. The gains were incredible with SD at the end and I enjoyed it more so that the kick start.Originally Posted by live to lift
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