M-Sten for cutting?
- 11-15-2012, 03:58 PM
As the title says could M-Sten be used effectively in a cut? I know its used primarily for bulking (or rather that's what I read) but I have heard that most don't experience back pumps which is a big deal.
I have a guy in my unit who wants to cut some weight ~15 lbs and he's looking to cycle. I don't know his height/weight but he asked me to help him set one up, he's pretty dead set on this and the first that came to mind for a cut was epi but we run a lot and having back pumps would literally screw him.
- 11-15-2012, 09:07 PM
- 11-15-2012, 09:16 PM
11-15-2012, 09:19 PM
Thanks for the reply brother. I figured you'd know lol, probably shoulda just pmed you.Originally Posted by jbryand101b
11-15-2012, 09:38 PM
Msten would be good, dzine would be good (I ran up to 75mg and didnt experience backpumps or headaches for that matter, but painful forearm/tricep pumps for some reason doing even unrelated exercises)
D-plex would be good for cutting as well, same for 11-oxo
Msten+dplex would make a nice cycle, one bottle of each is not so expensive and will give you maximum benefits with lowest side effects (besides liver values)
11-15-2012, 11:49 PM
I'm cutting on msten right now. No sides but my nuts are 40% smaller on day 24 sucks haha. Msten isn't the greatest bulker IMHO and its better for a cut. I'm running 24 mg a day and at first I felt very horny but now libido is shot.
11-16-2012, 08:20 PM
There is no benefit in stacking msten and dzine.Originally Posted by nightterror
11-17-2012, 01:19 AM
11-17-2012, 05:11 AM
11-17-2012, 12:24 PM
My bad, msten and dplex. No benefit there either.Originally Posted by nightterror
11-17-2012, 12:25 PM
No reason to stack the two.Originally Posted by Infekted_87
11-17-2012, 02:12 PM
I was still using dplex after discontinuing SD and I could say that the muscle hardness & pumps were goooooood (150mg/ED)
11-17-2012, 06:27 PM
dplex contain an inactive compound that is activated via stomach acids into methyl dht.
superdrol is di methyl dht.
not saying stacking the two is crazy or stupid, but i dont see a real need. if you or others prefer it, more power to you.
11-17-2012, 06:33 PM
Your amount of knowledge on these compounds is astounding to me.Originally Posted by jbryand101b
11-17-2012, 07:10 PM
Jbry what would be your choice for recomp/building lean body mass? Also would it be silly to incorporate T3 to seriously cut BF at a small dose?Originally Posted by jbryand101b
My thought is PHs aren't strong enough to combat muscle cannibalism but I'm unsure.
11-18-2012, 12:45 AM
02-07-2013, 04:39 PM
Running msten for a cutting cycle right now .. one week 1 horny as ****,, when did you feel your libido drop? I wish i felt like this all the time.
02-08-2013, 05:06 PM
02-09-2013, 05:38 AM
The 11-oxo needs to be higher. Haven't considered msten for a cut as most bulk with it but interested to hear more.
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