BEST PH FOR CUTTING?

[fatboy_2012]

hey guys well I'm 510 235 lbs trying to lean out and keep the little muscle that I have I'm going to start insanity (home workout program) Monday and I've been on the diet for a couple weeks and its working pretty good for me but I'm looking for more of an edge and was wondering what you think is best for cutting thanks in advance

[warsteiner]

If you are going to be doing a purely cardio program then you shouldn't be using a PH. PHs have side effects including back pumps and lethargy, which can make cardio very hard or pretty much impossible to do. This will be even more evident with a cardio program like Insanity where you are doing a lot of jumping and squatting movements.

If the diet is working well for you then stick to it. Adding in Insanity to a diet that is working will mean that you should speed up the fat loss. You could add in a couple of weight training days to help you retain muscle and assist in leaning out if you like but there isn't any need for a PH.

[Damorgs]

He's totally right.. I found walking more than 100m challenging while in hdrol at 100mg.. Even with taurine at 20g a day.. I tried to go for a run, found myself in so much pain I almost caught a cab home

[murk01]

Never thought of it, but imagine ur whole body cramping up!

Instead of ph, look into stims. Eca or other fat burners.

[fatboy_2012]

Will do...all the fat burners out now are garbage...ill keep looking tho...thanks a lot guys

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Will do...all the fat burners out now are garbage...ill keep looking tho...thanks a lot guys

Try Clen

[fatboy_2012]

Clen is what I've been looking for...I only find the liquid here...I need the oral tab..

[murk01]

Clen is what I've been looking for...I only find the liquid here...I need the oral tab..

Clen is ruff . I picked up a bunch thinking i would do a good cycle....
Didnt make it past 3 days

[Distilled Water]

Clen is what I've been looking for...I only find the liquid here...I need the oral tab..

Compund 20 has been compared to clen. Benefits without the risk of death

[fatboy_2012]

I've actually heard a couple people mention compound 20..maybe ill give it a shot...thanks bro

[pushinweightw]

If you are going to be doing a purely cardio program then you shouldn't be using a PH. PHs have side effects including back pumps and lethargy, which can make cardio very hard or pretty much impossible to do. This will be even more evident with a cardio program like Insanity where you are doing a lot of jumping and squatting movements.

If the diet is working well for you then stick to it. Adding in Insanity to a diet that is working will mean that you should speed up the fat loss. You could add in a couple of weight training days to help you retain muscle and assist in leaning out if you like but there isn't any need for a PH.

You can use any hormone to cut. Some of the hormones that convert heavily to estrogen might make cutting a little tougher but you should be managing estrogen on one of those compounds anyways. Now some people like to look there best the whole time they cut and avoid wetter compounds but in reality any hormone will help you retain muscle during a cut. You can use anything from SD, Halo, m-sten to BULK-UP, P-BOLD, Alpha Mass. If you use a wetter compound simply drop it one to two weeks prior to the day you want to look your best. Hell many

That being said if you are doing no weight training then save the hormones for later. Look into some beta alanine and BCAA's your going to need them with a cardio based program.

[JW390898]

If still thinking PH then MDien is great for cutting.

[hvactech]

Will do...all the fat burners out now are garbage...ill keep looking tho...thanks a lot guys

Explain "garbage"

[j05441]

Whats your diet and workout experince like? I feel most here are pretty advance and use diet and training first drugs second

[Damorgs]

You can use any hormone to cut. Some of the hormones that convert heavily to estrogen might make cutting a little tougher but you should be managing estrogen on one of those compounds anyways. Now some people like to look there best the whole time they cut and avoid wetter compounds but in reality any hormone will help you retain muscle during a cut. You can use anything from SD, Halo, m-sten to BULK-UP, P-BOLD, Alpha Mass. If you use a wetter compound simply drop it one to two weeks prior to the day you want to look your best. Hell many

That being said if you are doing no weight training then save the hormones for later. Look into some beta alanine and BCAA's your going to need them with a cardio based program.

I totally agree with everything you just said. It's not the compound doing the cut, it's your diet and training plan that is achieving the cut. In saying that, he already said he is going to do a cardio intensive workout plan. Trying to achieve this on something like superdrol with back pumps would be nearly impossible and therefore he would fail his goal..

I used hdrol in my cut, I dropped calories and lifted heavy as I usually would. I gained a little strength but mostly recomped fat and gained some lean muscle. It all boils down to your goals, you can't do everything in one cycle so have a clear goal in the beginning.

[swollz]

Winstrol hands down or epi but winstrol ph is legit

[pushinweightw]

Winstrol hands down or epi but winstrol ph is legit

Well winstrol and it's PH are both scheduled so you might as well use winstrol if one chooses to go that route. From everything I have read and people I have talked to running winny with a routine that has you jumping all over the place sounds like a nightmare joint wise.

I am with others in this thread OP should hold off on the PH/DS.

[cokeholio]

Back pumps = ur ass bone feels like its gonna break off = lift and go home, no running. And as far as lethargy goes that's another mother F right there. And I ran epi at 30-40 no higher

[MidwestBeast]

Will do...all the fat burners out now are garbage...ill keep looking tho...thanks a lot guys

While a lot of products in every category can be classified as garbage, there are certainly a lot of good products in each category, too; including fat burners.



Oh, and I think Black Liver is what you're looking for; just google it.

[Montego1]

11oxo. Its expensive to run for anabolic effects (800-1000mg a day) but its great for cortisol control (400-600mg a day) if ur cutting.