Best cycle for adding and keeping mass

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Try combinding hgh plus cjc plus igf1 plus a. 12 week test cycle with a dbol kicker and gain 30 to 40 lbs
    cjc and igf1 are peptides? What about fat loss? Will it help with that?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    cjc and igf1 are peptides? What about fat loss? Will it help with that?
    YES! Growth hormone is released when you take cjc. Growth hormone is a powerful fat burning hormone. Igf1 will add some mass but has fat burning properties too.

    Cjc without dac you have to take on an empty stomach and eat for your goals. Gh needs insulin for it to be Anabolic. If this is your goal eat a high Carb meal 30 mins post injection. If fat loss is your goal eat something high protien low carbs and low fat. Insulin stops the fat burning effect. I am gonna do a recompense with mod cjc and ill be eating carbs post workout and no. Carbs when I take the second dose at bedtime. Best of both worlds

    You can also stack it with cjc with dac to further increase the gh. It has a pulse effect aswell so wait 30 mins post injection to eat anything. Although the dietary restrictions aren't needed with dac. Half life is 7 days.

    Igf1 acts in the same way insulin does. It is very Anabolic
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    YES! Growth hormone is released when you take cjc. Growth hormone is a powerful fat burning hormone. Igf1 will add some mass but has fat burning properties too.

    Cjc without dac you have to take on an empty stomach and eat for your goals. Gh needs insulin for it to be Anabolic. If this is your goal eat a high Carb meal 30 mins post injection. If fat loss is your goal eat something high protien low carbs and low fat. Insulin stops the fat burning effect. I am gonna do a recompense with mod cjc and ill be eating carbs post workout and no. Carbs when I take the second dose at bedtime. Best of both worlds

    You can also stack it with cjc with dac to further increase the gh. It has a pulse effect aswell so wait 30 mins post injection to eat anything. Although the dietary restrictions aren't needed with dac. Half life is 7 days.

    Igf1 acts in the same way insulin does. It is very Anabolic
    What is your body fat %? I am 13% now, when I'm on cycle I'm usually at 11%-12%. Since I turned 40 I tried to get back down to 8.5% like I was when I was 23 but after 8 weeks of doing cardio twice a day, lifting weights and clean diet with low carbs I was only able to get donw to 10%. So I gave up. Then I tried HGH for 4 weeks but all I got was carpil tunnel syndrom.
    I have a peptide I never used. I believe they are all legal (correct me if I'm wrong).

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    What is your body fat %? I am 13% now, when I'm on cycle I'm usually at 11%-12%. Since I turned 40 I tried to get back down to 8.5% like I was when I was 23 but after 8 weeks of doing cardio twice a day, lifting weights and clean diet with low carbs I was only able to get donw to 10%. So I gave up. Then I tried HGH for 4 weeks but all I got was carpil tunnel syndrom.
    I have a peptide I never used. I believe they are all legal (correct me if I'm wrong).
    Legality if your talking about possession ....yes they are legal to have as with serms but ...like serms...if you use them for anything that doesn't relate to research like bodybuilding they become illegal. You are aloud to have them in your possession.HGH is illegal. Cjc releases gh and is legal.

    I'm at 8 % in that av picture actually. I got down to 6% at one time but it was too much. I would lay on my bed and my ribs would hurt. My more current picture is in my cjc log. At about 11% . I plan on getting to 15 due to long bulking ( oh shush anal people.I can say bulking)
    I just started pinning but I've been looking at it for over a year.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Legality if your talking about possession ....yes they are legal to have as with serms but ...like serms...if you use them for anything that doesn't relate to research like bodybuilding they become illegal. You are aloud to have them in your possession.HGH is illegal. Cjc releases gh and is legal.

    I'm at 8 % in that av picture actually. I got down to 6% at one time but it was too much. I would lay on my bed and my ribs would hurt. My more current picture is in my cjc log. At about 11% . I plan on getting to 15 due to long bulking ( oh shush anal people.I can say bulking)
    I just started pinning but I've been looking at it for over a year.
    Yes, I know HGH is illegal. So would you attribute your ability to get to 6%-8% from the stack of peptides, HGH, CJC and Test? And what would you suggest should be my dosage cycle? You mention HGH, CJC IGF-1, Test and Dbol.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    Yes, I know HGH is illegal. So would you attribute your ability to get to 6%-8% from the stack of peptides, HGH, CJC and Test? And what would you suggest should be my dosage cycle? You mention HGH, CJC IGF-1, Test and Dbol.
    My 6 %was with clen t3 pstanz and hdrol.
    Doesage for dbol idk but test 500mg /week should be good. Cjc doseage is 100 mcgs 1 to 3x a day.cjc with dac doseage is 2mg once a week. Igf1 LR3 doseage is 200 mcgs post workout. You can also adjust your dose if you want. These are only guidelines.

    You can get cjc and igf1 in ya with a 29 g insulin needle. Pretty painless if you don't have a shakey hand like me.
    Doseage for peptides on the needle are as follows. I assume your going to use 1 ml of bac water
    Cjc mod =5 units cjc dac = 100. Units igf1 = 10 or 20 depending on what you want
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    My 6 %was with clen t3 pstanz and hdrol.
    Doesage for dbol idk but test 500mg /week should be good. Cjc doseage is 100 mcgs 1 to 3x a day.cjc with dac doseage is 2mg once a week. Igf1 LR3 doseage is 200 mcgs post workout. You can also adjust your dose if you want. These are only guidelines.

    You can get cjc and igf1 in ya with a 29 g insulin needle. Pretty painless if you don't have a shakey hand like me.
    Doseage for peptides on the needle are as follows. I assume your going to use 1 ml of bac water
    Cjc mod =5 units cjc dac = 100. Units igf1 = 10 or 20 depending on what you want
    So, if I want less fat, why not just do clen and t3 and did you wirte pstanz? What is that?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    So, if I want less fat, why not just do clen and t3 and did you wirte pstanz? What is that?
    This topic is about keepable gains. Clen is a temporary solution. Pstanz is a great unmethylayed winstrol but its gone now....some one bring it back or ill end you
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    This topic is about keepable gains. Clen is a temporary solution. Pstanz is a great unmethylayed winstrol but its gone now....some one bring it back or ill end you
    LOL!! You'll end me? What do you mean?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    LOL!! You'll end me? What do you mean?
    I'm talking to the Supp companies that browse here. Pstanz ...bring it back please.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    I'm talking to the Supp companies that browse here. Pstanz ...bring it back please.
    Oh, LOL.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    Oh, LOL.
    It was awesomest. I feel I must beg because of that.they already brought back bold which I'm happy about
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    It was awesomest. I feel I must beg because of that.they already brought back bold which I'm happy about
    "They already brought back bold" - what is bold?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Axiles

    "They already brought back bold" - what is bold?
    A very good unmethylated tool for gaining size.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    A very good unmethylated tool for gaining size.
    I like unmethylated. Is it better stacker for size than AL trenazone?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Axiles

    I like unmethylated. Is it better stacker for size than AL trenazone?
    Bold is mild as with trenazone. 8 to 12 lbs at 8 weeks is my estimation. No estrogen conversion
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Axiles View Post
    "They already brought back bold" - what is bold?
    really?? what is the name of the clone??

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Eric160 View Post
    really?? what is the name of the clone??
    I believe PBOLD is the clone plus some others.Idk them though.
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