Best cycle for adding and keeping mass

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by zendog View Post
    op said he was wanting to use orals. I think longer cycles are better for keeping gains from personal experience. If he doesnt want to pin then i'd suggest something like:

    1-12 Alpha mass/alpha bulk or other good test base
    1-4 Ultradrol or other oral of choice
    9-12 Epi or other oral of choice
    This looks very interesting, what dose would you suggest for Alpha bulk/mass and for the rest. I'm have three bottles of EPI and I was looking for something to stack it with and I was also trying to do a longer cycle so this looks like something I'd try. Has anyone done something like this?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by anaboliko View Post
    This looks very interesting, what dose would you suggest for Alpha bulk/mass and for the rest. I'm have three bottles of EPI and I was looking for something to stack it with and I was also trying to do a longer cycle so this looks like something I'd try. Has anyone done something like this?
    I havn't used Mass/Bulk personally although i have used ultra and epi. I saw this 12 week oral cycle on another site a long time ago (can't remember the site) and thought it looked good for bulking if you don't want to inject. Basically you use your bulking oral of choice then give your body/organs a break for four weeks and then go again and on compound of choice for final four. I think would work great for those who do not like injectables or are sick of losing gains with short 4 week cycles.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    I did have an issue with Prolactin last cycle.
    oh then maybee caber could be of use to u what was ur last cycle??

  4. Trenadrol @ 150mg 1-9 weeks
    Superdrol @ 10/30/30 (1-3) and 10/30/30 (7-10)
    Stano @ 800mg 1-9

    I suggest using the brand "dragon nutrition" (not promoting) it however is based in the UK.. They sell international though of-course and at such cheap prices + shipping you'll still be saving
    Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    Obviously we are all alpha males here and swole as ****. I know for a fact when I walk into a room I own the situation. I could literally physical dominate anyone in the room.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalls View Post
    i lift to get bigger so the rest of my body is in proportion to my dick

  5. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    What do you think about stacking it with an injectable test at say 2cc twice a week and 50mg of proviron while kicking in some cabergoline for ****s and giggles?
    Sorry i dont kno what 2ccs of your gear equates to and i cant comment on the use of proviron as ive never used or researched it. I wudnt toss in any extra chems for sh!ts and gigs especially caber unless necessary cuz caber comes wit its own set of sides too, keep mind this is an off label use that we aas users follow and if its rc grade i want my use minimal as possible.
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  6. Sorry fell behind and jus noticed id been quoted earlier.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TheThickMick View Post
    Sorry i dont kno what 2ccs of your gear equates to and i cant comment on the use of proviron as ive never used or researched it. I wudnt toss in any extra chems for sh!ts and gigs especially caber unless necessary cuz caber comes wit its own set of sides too, keep mind this is an off label use that we aas users follow and if its rc grade i want my use minimal as possible.
    Ok, 2ccs of 250mg per ml of Test E. I have pharm grade caber. 1/2 pill every four days for 4 weeks.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Eric160 View Post
    oh then maybee caber could be of use to u what was ur last cycle??
    My last cycle was:

    Week 1 – 3 : 2 x’s a week (1 Sust, 1 deca, 1 Prop) Week 4 – 6: 2 x’s a week (1 Enanth, 1 prop, 1Deca) Week 7 - 9: 2 x’s a week (1 sust, 1 Deca, 1 Prop) Week 10 – 12: 2 x’s a week(1 Enanth, 1 deca,1Prop) Week 13 1x a week (1 Enanth, 1 deca)

    Tabs

    Week 3 Dbol(50mg tabs) 2 tabs daily
    Week 4 Dbol 1 tabs daily
    Week 5 Dbol 1 tab daily
    Week 6 Dbol tab daily
    Week 7 Proviron 1 /daily.
    Week 7 Anadrol 4 tabs daily Mon. – Fri. Sat & Sun off Week 8 Ana 3 tabs daily Mon. – Fri. Sat & Sun off Week 9 Ana 2 tabs daily Mon. – Fri. Sat & Sun off Week 10 Anadrol 1 tab daily Mon. – Fri. Sat & Sun off Week 11 Anavar 6 tabs daily

    Week 12 Anavar 5 tabs daily

    Week 13 Anavar 4 tabs Daily

    Week 14 Anavar 3 tabs daily

    Week 15 Anavar 2 tabs daily

  9. with decca and drol i could see prolactin being an issue for most. but if ur not running any 19-nors or drol u should be fine i hear caber can be pretty harsh. maybee u should look into supplementing b6 for prolactin control

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Eric160 View Post
    with decca and drol i could see prolactin being an issue for most. but if ur not running any 19-nors or drol u should be fine i hear caber can be pretty harsh. maybee u should look into supplementing b6 for prolactin control
    I did Caber once and the only sides I got was extremly tired and a bit of nausia.
    I didnt know b6 lowered Prolactin.
    I also just ordered Prolactrone. It's legal and supposed to lower your levels to 10. Mine are 14 right now and I've been off gear for 8 weeks and 7 weeks when I did my blood work. They say 14 is within range; but I was told you want get down to single digits. They say if it's low enough you can ejaculate, keep your erection and keep going!

  11. i uess i dont have a prolactin issue lol

  12. And how did it work for you?

  13. Why did you "taper" orals ?
    Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    Obviously we are all alpha males here and swole as ****. I know for a fact when I walk into a room I own the situation. I could literally physical dominate anyone in the room.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalls View Post
    i lift to get bigger so the rest of my body is in proportion to my dick

  14. Quote Originally Posted by limitless3679 View Post
    Why did you "taper" orals ?
    Me?

  15. yea
    Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    Obviously we are all alpha males here and swole as ****. I know for a fact when I walk into a room I own the situation. I could literally physical dominate anyone in the room.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalls View Post
    i lift to get bigger so the rest of my body is in proportion to my dick

  16. Quote Originally Posted by limitless3679 View Post
    yea
    Thats what I was advised to do by the person I bought them from. Why? Was that wrong?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn View Post
    Thats what I was advised to do by the person I bought them from. Why? Was that wrong?
    No problems, just would have preferred a fixed dose
    Quote Originally Posted by AwhYeah View Post
    Obviously we are all alpha males here and swole as ****. I know for a fact when I walk into a room I own the situation. I could literally physical dominate anyone in the room.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBalls View Post
    i lift to get bigger so the rest of my body is in proportion to my dick

  18. The only "real " keepable long term gains is from growth hormone and peptides. Growing new muscle fibers is boss.
    Online community manager/lead rep of Chaos and Pain,LLC and Fundamental Nutrition.Check us out!chaosandpain.com fnsupps.com Follow me on instagram:@pyrobatt

  19. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    The only "real " keepable long term gains is from growth hormone and peptides. Growing new muscle fibers is boss.
    What's your back up for this pyrobatt? I tried HGH before I did test and aas and all it did was give me carbul tunnel syndrom. I have never tried peptides.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by limitless3679 View Post
    No problems, just would have preferred a fixed dose
    Why? Just asking, I really don't know.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    What's your back up for this pyrobatt? I tried HGH before I did test and aas and all it did was give me carbul tunnel syndrom. I have never tried peptides.
    Igf1 and gh grows muscle fibers. Steroids aas included only increase the size of a muscle. Not a perm thing.not to say you can't "grow" on them but for this " keepable gains" goal peptides are better suited in my opinion.you can also stack steroids/Ph/w/e for bigger gains due to increased protien retention. How long did you run it?
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Igf1 and gh grows muscle fibers. Steroids aas included only increase the size of a muscle. Not a perm thing.not to say you can't "grow" on them but for this " keepable gains" goal peptides are better suited in my opinion.you can also stack steroids/Ph/w/e for bigger gains due to increased protien retention. How long did you run it?
    I ran it for 4 weeks.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    I ran it for 4 weeks.
    Try a couple of months
    .
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  24. The carpil tunnel syndrom was killing me.

  25. tbol the real stuff and p bold come to mind

  26. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn
    The carpil tunnel syndrom was killing me.
    Did you try igf1? Or cjc? I know the sides you're talking about but unfortunately gh and igf1 is the only way "theoreticaly " to build and keep muscles are the methods I mentioned. Steroids just don't do it. You could also try s4 plus ostraine for your joints while on gh.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by mich29
    tbol the real stuff and p bold come to mind
    Tbol. Is that a clone or is it turinabol? I also will be trying p bold
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    Tbol. Is that a clone or is it turinabol? I also will be trying p bold
    I pretty sure hes talking about turinabol

  29. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Did you try igf1? Or cjc? I know the sides you're talking about but unfortunately gh and igf1 is the only way "theoreticaly " to build and keep muscles are the methods I mentioned. Steroids just don't do it. You could also try s4 plus ostraine for your joints while on gh.
    I dont know. The box says Riptropin Somatropin.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by JoeBrooklyn

    I dont know. The box says Riptropin Somatropin.
    Try combinding hgh plus cjc plus igf1 plus a. 12 week test cycle with a dbol kicker and gain 30 to 40 lbs
    Online community manager/lead rep of Chaos and Pain,LLC and Fundamental Nutrition.Check us out!chaosandpain.com fnsupps.com Follow me on instagram:@pyrobatt
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