Steroids Vs. Pro Hormones
- 11-09-2012, 05:37 PM
Steroids Vs. Pro Hormones
I was wondering which of the two were better and more efficient to.use. It would seem quite obvious anabolic steroids would be but I wanted an idea of how much more efficient when they are compared to a pro hormone, if they are at all. I realize there are different strengths of both compounds I am just talking generalities. I will take anabolics in the future but just trying Ph at the moment because personally it was just easier to get because of the interference of the illegalization of anabolics. Let me know what y'all think! I am new at this all I'm trying to do is become more educated.on the matter. Thanks!
- 11-09-2012, 05:54 PM
AAS if you can get it, but it all depends on which compounds you are wanting run. This seems to be a popular subject lately, I'd search the forums and/or google for a more in depth answer. I'm sure you'll find a ton of threads comparing different compounds.
11-09-2012, 05:58 PM
Prohormones are steroids. With that said, injectables tend to be easier on the body, but orals tend to pack the mass on faster. The best situation seems to be a longer injectable cycle where you run an oral at the beginning in conjunction.
11-09-2012, 07:52 PM
11-09-2012, 08:03 PM
11-10-2012, 11:50 AM
Thanks that gave me some good insight. I realize saying which is "better" is pretty vague but i have no other way to put it i guess. Thanks for the answers
11-10-2012, 11:56 AM
I did my fair share of PH/PS before taking the plunge into AAS. looking back i did a lot of yo-yoing, gain 10 lbs or more on a PH/PS cycle then lose most in PCT maybe keep a few. then AAS came into my life, i was 190lbs when i started AAS now i'm 235lbs. now of course thats hard training and wise eating but still could not have put theat much quality size on with just food, sleep and training
11-11-2012, 11:47 AM
11-11-2012, 12:07 PM
I grouped SD and PHs together because they are grouped together commonly. I know of one source out of maybe 30 that actually sells superdrol.
11-11-2012, 01:48 PM
Anyone who groups methyl masteron as a pro hormone IS an idiot, even worse is when they know it isn't, but still do in order to fit in with the rest of the uninformed crowd, continuing to spread misinformation around like dog food.Originally Posted by jt339
Those people are probably learning, but they aren't teaching, or leading.
11-11-2012, 02:00 PM
11-11-2012, 02:14 PM
So if I'm the typical "idiot" who comes in here knowing SD is strong as hell and can blow your lipid and liver values into oblivion (which seems to be common knowledge even amongst the biggest "idiots"), what will telling this person it isn't a PH, but a DS do? What else is there to consider?
You might want to take a step back and not assume that everyone is dumber than you are. I am hardly an idiot, as the biochemistry degree I have and medical doctorate I will be receiving in 2.5 years should prove.
11-11-2012, 04:19 PM
11-11-2012, 04:31 PM
What everyone else has said so far besides the idiot convo lol...i just think its funny cause if we were all talking in person i doubt people would call u names to your face...anyway...if u can get ur hands on aas thays the better route, ph tend to come with stronger sides and less gains than aas, just imo....the gains you make from aas are easier to keep during a proper pct, than ph..this is all my opinion so pls dnt call me names, hahah
11-11-2012, 04:33 PM
11-11-2012, 07:35 PM
good stuff guys. Way to stay on topic
With that said, I'm not personally convinced that running anything without an actual test injection along is worth the side effects and queationable net gains
11-11-2012, 07:42 PM
11-11-2012, 07:54 PM
really though? I think most people are afraid of self injecting. For me, I learned the hard way what Ph can do to you, even with textbook pct. And as far as laws, research chems are "not for human consumption"- not sure how laws work with thatOriginally Posted by jt339
11-11-2012, 08:52 PM
11-13-2012, 11:05 AM
What did u learn, im like on the line about this. I have done sd and had a hellova good time. But lost alot of the gains. So know im wondering should i make the step towards injecting.... Also scared of needles... The gains stick around longer?Originally Posted by threeFs
11-13-2012, 03:52 PM
11-13-2012, 04:02 PM
11-14-2012, 01:17 AM
this is why i get mad, Prohormones like halodrol CONVERT to active steroids in this case oral turinabol. Anabolic/androgenic steroids CAN BE INJECTABLE, TRANSDERMAL, ORAL, it doesnt mattter. So when people say "ph tend to come with stronger sides and less gains the aas" this is so wrong and stupid. Trust me anadrol 50 has much more sides than halodrol. The problem is people think that because it is in a pill and is legal it is a prohormone, NO, most are actually active anabolic steroids ie sd epistane dymethazine etc... So the correct thing to say would be "Oral steroids have some liver effects that are worse than injectables because of the methylation, however winstrol and dianabol are methylated so if you inject them they are just as hard on the liver. Stanaodrol which i believe converts to dht so it is a prohormone is unmethlyated and has minimal sides and some pretty good lean gains for sex drive hardening effect and strength. It is the spreading of bad info that bothers me, I make mistakes all the time but they get corrected , we need to right info so people are safer and can help themselves if wanted
11-14-2012, 02:32 AM
Then, finally I moved to AAS which are injectables and they need a longer and thicker needle because it's an intermuscular; but dont let that scare you. It isnt that much thicker and what I still do is numb the injections spot with ice, so when I stick it I dont even feel the pinch, once it's in there is no pain except for some pressure because AAS are oil based and thick so to get it in requires some strength and as it's going in you feel some pressure but nothing serious.
Start off by doing 2ccs once per week. This may sound crazy; but I've learned to enjoy the injections now. One more thing, I started and still inject in my theigh. It's just easier and I believe least painful aside from the pinch which you can avoid with ice numbing as I mentioned above.
11-14-2012, 08:52 AM
What I learned is that if your serm is bunk and you're shutdown, life sucks. My total test level was 60 and my free was 2.9. This was after 4 weeks of torem, daa, herbal test booster, and erase pro in week 3.Originally Posted by murk01
Pinning with test would have prevented that. The depression, tiny balls, waking up 3-4x/night was the worst thing I could have ever lived through. You're stuck in this dark place and can't get out.
Pinning was scary the first 2-3 times, I will be honest. I got cold sweats, ears ringing, super dizzy and almost passed out. Those symptoms became less with each injection. It's still a rush but nothing as traumatizing as those first times.
Running PH is fun while on but the depression that follows, combined with the lost gains just seems worthless. Testosterone base would certainly help retain muscular gains IMO, perhaps not 100% but certainly more so than running without.
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