Steroids Vs. Pro Hormones

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  1. Steroids Vs. Pro Hormones


    I was wondering which of the two were better and more efficient to.use. It would seem quite obvious anabolic steroids would be but I wanted an idea of how much more efficient when they are compared to a pro hormone, if they are at all. I realize there are different strengths of both compounds I am just talking generalities. I will take anabolics in the future but just trying Ph at the moment because personally it was just easier to get because of the interference of the illegalization of anabolics. Let me know what y'all think! I am new at this all I'm trying to do is become more educated.on the matter. Thanks!


  2. AAS if you can get it, but it all depends on which compounds you are wanting run. This seems to be a popular subject lately, I'd search the forums and/or google for a more in depth answer. I'm sure you'll find a ton of threads comparing different compounds.
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  3. Prohormones are steroids. With that said, injectables tend to be easier on the body, but orals tend to pack the mass on faster. The best situation seems to be a longer injectable cycle where you run an oral at the beginning in conjunction.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Prohormones are steroids. With that said, injectables tend to be easier on the body, but orals tend to pack the mass on faster. The best situation seems to be a longer injectable cycle where you run an oral at the beginning in conjunction.
    ^money.

    More efficient: generally speaking PHs as they're all orals and orals are generally faster acting as stated above. Better: not a good question. Depends on what you're looking for. Personally, AAS all the way other than the occasional superdrol cycle.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Prohormones are steroids. With that said, injectables tend to be easier on the body, but orals tend to pack the mass on faster. The best situation seems to be a longer injectable cycle where you run an oral at the beginning in conjunction.
    What he said^^^


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  6. Thanks that gave me some good insight. I realize saying which is "better" is pretty vague but i have no other way to put it i guess. Thanks for the answers

  7. I did my fair share of PH/PS before taking the plunge into AAS. looking back i did a lot of yo-yoing, gain 10 lbs or more on a PH/PS cycle then lose most in PCT maybe keep a few. then AAS came into my life, i was 190lbs when i started AAS now i'm 235lbs. now of course thats hard training and wise eating but still could not have put theat much quality size on with just food, sleep and training

  8. sd IS an active steroid idiot
    Quote Originally Posted by jt339 View Post
    ^money.

    More efficient: generally speaking PHs as they're all orals and orals are generally faster acting as stated above. Better: not a good question. Depends on what you're looking for. Personally, AAS all the way other than the occasional superdrol cycle.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    sd IS an active steroid idiot
    An intelligent and dignified way to get your point across would be to say, "Actually, I am pretty sure SD is an active steroid." Instead, you went the immature and angry route which is what horrible forums like bb.com are known for. I don't get mad when people talk to me like this, however, all your opinions in the future are likely to be written off. I know you don't care, but I just thought I would let you know how I deal with immature angry kids who want to show off how smart they are.

    I grouped SD and PHs together because they are grouped together commonly. I know of one source out of maybe 30 that actually sells superdrol.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jt339

    An intelligent and dignified way to get your point across would be to say, "Actually, I am pretty sure SD is an active steroid." Instead, you went the immature and angry route which is what horrible forums like bb.com are known for. I don't get mad when people talk to me like this, however, all your opinions in the future are likely to be written off. I know you don't care, but I just thought I would let you know how I deal with immature angry kids who want to show off how smart they are.

    I grouped SD and PHs together because they are grouped together commonly. I know of one source out of maybe 30 that actually sells superdrol.
    Anyone who groups methyl masteron as a pro hormone IS an idiot, even worse is when they know it isn't, but still do in order to fit in with the rest of the uninformed crowd, continuing to spread misinformation around like dog food.
    Those people are probably learning, but they aren't teaching, or leading.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    sd IS an active steroid idiot
    Real mature

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Anyone who groups methyl masteron as a pro hormone IS an idiot, even worse is when they know it isn't, but still do in order to fit in with the rest of the uninformed crowd, continuing to spread misinformation around like dog food.
    Those people are probably learning, but they aren't teaching, or leading.
    *facepalm* Cool your jets guys. Jesus Christ everyone has to assert how smart they are on this board by calling other people names. This kind of attitude, especially from the vets, is what makes forums go bad. If I came in here saying "Is creatine stronger than superdrol," I can understand saying, "the question shows your lack of intelligence on the matter," but I wouldn't call that person an idiot. What I said isn't even that bad.

    So if I'm the typical "idiot" who comes in here knowing SD is strong as hell and can blow your lipid and liver values into oblivion (which seems to be common knowledge even amongst the biggest "idiots"), what will telling this person it isn't a PH, but a DS do? What else is there to consider?

    You might want to take a step back and not assume that everyone is dumber than you are. I am hardly an idiot, as the biochemistry degree I have and medical doctorate I will be receiving in 2.5 years should prove.

  13. I'm sorry to hurt your feelings doctor.

  14. What everyone else has said so far besides the idiot convo lol...i just think its funny cause if we were all talking in person i doubt people would call u names to your face...anyway...if u can get ur hands on aas thays the better route, ph tend to come with stronger sides and less gains than aas, just imo....the gains you make from aas are easier to keep during a proper pct, than ph..this is all my opinion so pls dnt call me names, hahah

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    I'm sorry to hurt your feelings doctor.
    Quote Originally Posted by jt339 View Post
    I don't get mad when people talk to me like this, however, all your opinions in the future are likely to be written off. I know you don't care, but I just thought I would let you know how I deal with immature angry kids who want to show off how smart they are.
    Was particularly curious about your answer to this...

    Quote Originally Posted by jt339 View Post

    So if I'm the typical "idiot" who comes in here knowing SD is strong as hell and can blow your lipid and liver values into oblivion (which seems to be common knowledge even amongst the biggest "idiots"), what will telling this person it isn't a PH, but a DS do? What else is there to consider?

  16. good stuff guys. Way to stay on topic

    With that said, I'm not personally convinced that running anything without an actual test injection along is worth the side effects and queationable net gains

  17. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    good stuff guys. Way to stay on topic

    With that said, I'm not personally convinced that running anything without an actual test injection along is worth the side effects and queationable net gains
    Well I'm quite sure that most people would use test along with their PHs if test was available to them. Other than the people who would be afraid of breaking the law or whatever.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jt339

    Well I'm quite sure that most people would use test along with their PHs if test was available to them. Other than the people who would be afraid of breaking the law or whatever.
    really though? I think most people are afraid of self injecting. For me, I learned the hard way what Ph can do to you, even with textbook pct. And as far as laws, research chems are "not for human consumption"- not sure how laws work with that

  19. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    really though? I think most people are afraid of self injecting. For me, I learned the hard way what Ph can do to you, even with textbook pct. And as far as laws, research chems are "not for human consumption"- not sure how laws work with that
    Well I suppose that could be an issue too haha

  20. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs

    really though? I think most people are afraid of self injecting. For me, I learned the hard way what Ph can do to you, even with textbook pct. And as far as laws, research chems are "not for human consumption"- not sure how laws work with that
    What did u learn, im like on the line about this. I have done sd and had a hellova good time. But lost alot of the gains. So know im wondering should i make the step towards injecting.... Also scared of needles... The gains stick around longer?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    What did u learn, im like on the line about this. I have done sd and had a hellova good time. But lost alot of the gains. So know im wondering should i make the step towards injecting.... Also scared of needles... The gains stick around longer?
    Only related to your fear of needles for this reply...but just do it man. I was in the same boat, a big pinner *****. I went with a slin-pin and ran some Peps to start.. couldn't feel a thing. I'll be running a test eth cycle early next year, no longer concerned about sticking..

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ricka182

    Only related to your fear of needles for this reply...but just do it man. I was in the same boat, a big pinner *****. I went with a slin-pin and ran some Peps to start.. couldn't feel a thing. I'll be running a test eth cycle early next year, no longer concerned about sticking..
    Nice, good luck

  23. this is why i get mad, Prohormones like halodrol CONVERT to active steroids in this case oral turinabol. Anabolic/androgenic steroids CAN BE INJECTABLE, TRANSDERMAL, ORAL, it doesnt mattter. So when people say "ph tend to come with stronger sides and less gains the aas" this is so wrong and stupid. Trust me anadrol 50 has much more sides than halodrol. The problem is people think that because it is in a pill and is legal it is a prohormone, NO, most are actually active anabolic steroids ie sd epistane dymethazine etc... So the correct thing to say would be "Oral steroids have some liver effects that are worse than injectables because of the methylation, however winstrol and dianabol are methylated so if you inject them they are just as hard on the liver. Stanaodrol which i believe converts to dht so it is a prohormone is unmethlyated and has minimal sides and some pretty good lean gains for sex drive hardening effect and strength. It is the spreading of bad info that bothers me, I make mistakes all the time but they get corrected , we need to right info so people are safer and can help themselves if wanted
    Quote Originally Posted by blaykeryan View Post
    What everyone else has said so far besides the idiot convo lol...i just think its funny cause if we were all talking in person i doubt people would call u names to your face...anyway...if u can get ur hands on aas thays the better route, ph tend to come with stronger sides and less gains than aas, just imo....the gains you make from aas are easier to keep during a proper pct, than ph..this is all my opinion so pls dnt call me names, hahah

  24. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    What did u learn, im like on the line about this. I have done sd and had a hellova good time. But lost alot of the gains. So know im wondering should i make the step towards injecting.... Also scared of needles... The gains stick around longer?
    No one is the history of sissies was a bigger chicken than me about needles. But I eased myself into it. First I started with HGH which is a sub-q injection, meaning it was only injected in the skin with the smallest and finest of needles. In fact, it was so fine, if you used the needle more than once it would really hurt because it was so dull.
    Then, finally I moved to AAS which are injectables and they need a longer and thicker needle because it's an intermuscular; but dont let that scare you. It isnt that much thicker and what I still do is numb the injections spot with ice, so when I stick it I dont even feel the pinch, once it's in there is no pain except for some pressure because AAS are oil based and thick so to get it in requires some strength and as it's going in you feel some pressure but nothing serious.
    Start off by doing 2ccs once per week. This may sound crazy; but I've learned to enjoy the injections now. One more thing, I started and still inject in my theigh. It's just easier and I believe least painful aside from the pinch which you can avoid with ice numbing as I mentioned above.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by murk01

    What did u learn, im like on the line about this. I have done sd and had a hellova good time. But lost alot of the gains. So know im wondering should i make the step towards injecting.... Also scared of needles... The gains stick around longer?
    What I learned is that if your serm is bunk and you're shutdown, life sucks. My total test level was 60 and my free was 2.9. This was after 4 weeks of torem, daa, herbal test booster, and erase pro in week 3.
    Pinning with test would have prevented that. The depression, tiny balls, waking up 3-4x/night was the worst thing I could have ever lived through. You're stuck in this dark place and can't get out.
    Pinning was scary the first 2-3 times, I will be honest. I got cold sweats, ears ringing, super dizzy and almost passed out. Those symptoms became less with each injection. It's still a rush but nothing as traumatizing as those first times.
    Running PH is fun while on but the depression that follows, combined with the lost gains just seems worthless. Testosterone base would certainly help retain muscular gains IMO, perhaps not 100% but certainly more so than running without.
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