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  1. Question Need Opinions that can be BACKED UP!!


    Just wondering, what's the most powerful steroid out there? We all know Test is a must on any AAS cycle, but what other steroids/stacks just make you explode? Tren, Deca, Dbol... who's the king of mass and strength gain?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by VinD
    Just wondering, what's the most powerful steroid out there? We all know Test is a must on any AAS cycle, but what other steroids/stacks just make you explode? Tren, Deca, Dbol... who's the king of mass and strength gain?
    Good question

    I'd say dbol is up there (many will say anadrol but that's because people take upwards of 100mg of it, mg for mg dbol is stronger then anadrol)

    Also halotestin is one not many people would expect

    Deca could also be considered but is more in regards to strength gains
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by infraredline View Post
    Good question

    I'd say dbol is up there (many will say anadrol but that's because people take upwards of 100mg of it, mg for mg dbol is stronger then anadrol)

    Also halotestin is one not many people would expect

    Deca could also be considered but is more in regards to strength gains

    Thanks. Ok so we've got Dbol in first, which I'm assuming would include the injectable version. So Dbol and Test would be a good stack. Is there a third that could be added to further boost gains? Or would you just take those two and up the dosage?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by VinD

    Thanks. Ok so we've got Dbol in first, which I'm assuming would include the injectable version. So Dbol and Test would be a good stack. Is there a third that could be added to further boost gains? Or would you just take those two and up the dosage?
    ^^^^^U can inject dbol? Injectable version? What????

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  6. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107
    SD?
    From my personal experience SD is insane dry size and strength. Anadrol is also intense size and strength. Dbol is good but doesn't compare.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    ^^^^^U can inject dbol? Injectable version? What????
    Yeah. All they do is compound it like a regular injectable . Still has a 17 group.

    As far as injectables I only have test and eq experience. Tren and nandralones are supposed to be awesome. You'll gain more size on deca than tren. But im not sure about the differences in strength gains since I've never used them.
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream

  7. Deca isn't much for strength, but tren really kicks it up another gear.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  8. I haven't tried tren yet but from what I've pulled on all my research it is definitely the king of steroids. Best for mass, strength, and shredding.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Di Methyl Trenbolone:


    Anabolic: 10,000

    Androgenic: Over 10,000




    Methyl Trenbolone:




    anabolic: 12,000

    androgenic: 6,000



    nuff said, lol.
    /thread.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    /thread.
    What's the difference between DiMethylTren and MethylTren?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow View Post
    ^^^^^U can inject dbol? Injectable version? What????

    you can inject anything.

    i've recently heard of injectable superdrol sold by a ugl in mexico. reports are it's much better than taking it orally. this is most likely placebo though.

    as it all gets filtered through the liver.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    What's the difference between DiMethylTren and MethylTren?
    whats the difference between di methyl dht and methyl dht?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    /thread.
    This^^^^^ enough said. Be careful with this stuff I would not run it any longer than 10-12 weeks with a test base to help with libido.
    "Pain is weakness leaving the body"

  14. i wouldn't recomend running di methyl trenbolone at all.

    and if I were to ever get some legit methyl trenbolone, i'd pulse it for 3-4 weeks. m/w/f

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    i wouldn't recomend running di methyl trenbolone at all.

    and if I were to ever get some legit methyl trenbolone, i'd pulse it for 3-4 weeks. m/w/f
    You make a valid point, with the Methylation, a much shorter run would be in order. I think I would consider 5 weeks. With that said, I am not a fan of Orals, I would use tren ace at the original duration I posted.
    "Pain is weakness leaving the body"

  16. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    i wouldn't recomend running di methyl trenbolone at all.

    and if I were to ever get some legit methyl trenbolone, i'd pulse it for 3-4 weeks. m/w/f
    I would hit you with some reps, but I'm using this shi*** mobile app.
    "Pain is weakness leaving the body"

  17. It all depends what ppl respond well to..not all will react the same but "generally" speaking
    Mass/strength I'd say dbol/deca/test (dosage dependent)

    Strength/cut Tren/mast/prop (100mg ED each) ahh gives me chills just talking about it!
    THis is a cuting stack but strength on it is ridiculous if your diet is on point. Best stack by far for recomp/strength and mass(of course dosage and diet dependent)

    Eq good for a base, anadrol is ok for short durations doesnt hold much water but very toxic
    Winny ...ehh only for comp prep toxic as hell. Halo the same
    Not crazy about oral PHs. Some are very toxic

  18. Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    It all depends what ppl respond well to..not all will react the same but "generally" speaking
    Mass/strength I'd say dbol/deca/test (dosage dependent)

    Strength/cut Tren/mast/prop (100mg ED each) ahh gives me chills just talking about it!
    THis is a cuting stack but strength on it is ridiculous if your diet is on point. Best stack by far for recomp/strength and mass(of course dosage and diet dependent)

    Eq good for a base, anadrol is ok for short durations doesnt hold much water but very toxic
    Winny ...ehh only for comp prep toxic as hell. Halo the same
    Not crazy about oral PHs. Some are very toxic
    that strength/cut looks brutal, 100mg ED, thats ALOT of Tren, could not imagine the sides from 700mg/week. That would be a total body transformation!!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by alpinecoach View Post
    that strength/cut looks brutal, 100mg ED, thats ALOT of Tren, could not imagine the sides from 700mg/week. That would be a total body transformation!!
    Yes it is but the transformation is amazing!

    One thing I should add, tren at this dosage does get a bit toxic and can make you mental for lack of a better word. 6 weeks with this stack is a safer bet. After that it gets dicy.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by vassille

    Yes it is but the transformation is amazing!

    One thing I should add, tren at this dosage does get a bit toxic and can make you mental for lack of a better word. 6 weeks with this stack is a safer bet. After that it gets dicy.
    I am sure the gains are incredible. I can't imagine the mental side?let alone the night sweats and insomnia??
    "Pain is weakness leaving the body"

  21. This is cycle I used for bulking before my last show (which I won the open heavy wt class)
    1200 mg test cyp weekly
    600 eq week (3 x 200mg week)
    100 mg dbol tabs daily
    100 mg Adrol daily
    10 IU grwth daily
    Isulin

    Please note I was eating an enormous amount of food (3lbs pounds of beef, a package of pasta, and 12 eggs daily) so much I was getting the gag reflex when I ate, Plus I had a ex professional trainer and a doc doing my blood work.

    I felt like crap but got big and strong, had to cut the oral in half after 4 weeks the cut oral after another 4 weeks (at that point my liver level were pretty high)

  22. Tren/prop 100mg ED = Freaky Strength, Ridiculous Pumps, Lean n Hard

    Personally, would only run it for 6 weeks

  23. methyltrienolone is up there but poison. i wouldnt say there is one steroid that u can pick from all have their purpose. most work better stacked as they can work synergistically

  24. Thanks for the responses guys. So the reason for the question was to help guide me into my next cycle. Should I go for 700+mg/week of Test and some Dbol for a serious bulk? Or maybe less Test and some other compounds thrown into the mix? I'm thinking go simple and crush the Test and Dbol, but I don't wanna waste gear that won't be effective.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by alpinecoach View Post
    I am sure the gains are incredible. I can't imagine the mental side?let alone the night sweats and insomnia??
    Gains are incredible. Fat melting off as you put on quality muscle obviously with a good diet. It does have a thermogenic effect.
    Mentally it feels like being invincible but not too bad. Some ppl do go crazy it depends on the person.
    Def night sweats, very warm most of the time because of the thermogenic effect.
    No insomnia sleep was fine.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ozdog View Post
    This is cycle I used for bulking before my last show (which I won the open heavy wt class)
    1200 mg test cyp weekly
    600 eq week (3 x 200mg week)
    100 mg dbol tabs daily
    100 mg Adrol daily
    10 IU grwth daily
    Isulin

    Please note I was eating an enormous amount of food (3lbs pounds of beef, a package of pasta, and 12 eggs daily) so much I was getting the gag reflex when I ate, Plus I had a ex professional trainer and a doc doing my blood work.

    I felt like crap but got big and strong, had to cut the oral in half after 4 weeks the cut oral after another 4 weeks (at that point my liver level were pretty high)
    if this was bulk what did the cut stack looked like?

    dbol/anadrol together makes you feel like crap. Im suprised at the dosage you took. 100mg dbol if it was real is extremely high especially in conjunction with anadrol.

    How was your insulin/gh split?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    Thanks for the responses guys. So the reason for the question was to help guide me into my next cycle. Should I go for 700+mg/week of Test and some Dbol for a serious bulk? Or maybe less Test and some other compounds thrown into the mix? I'm thinking go simple and crush the Test and Dbol, but I don't wanna waste gear that won't be effective.
    is this your first time?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    is this your first time?


    It will be my second. First time around was a Test Prop 100mg/day solo run (kinda foolish). I plan to do a big and long bulking cycle, take some time off, then do one more cutting/lean mass cycle leading up to a show hopefully.

  29. I would honestly run Tren in every cycle whether bulking or cutting

  30. cutting was a combination of Test Sus EOD, Winny EOD, Tren EOD, Halo last 3 weeks, novedex (uped dose last week) Growth (drop the last week), T3 and T4, clem, Phen.

    I was being traning by a big named pro, thats were I learned most of my stuff, I was also working with a Doc, My liver levels got pretty high. I was doing growth every day 1 x day ( now some poeple like to split the GH up over the day) I dont recall the exact amount of slin I was taking, During the off season, I in conjuntion with my doc, I expermined with when I was takingthe slin. One issue I had was taking in a 100 grams of simple sugars right after my slin shot, filled me and bloated my gut, then I had to have quick sugars with me at all times. It was a full time job
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