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  1.  11-03-2012  08:57 PM
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    First Cycle Check


    Going to be running my first ph cycle hoping to get it all in before the new year.

    After the usual benefits, lowest side effects, lean/dry out, fat loss...

    Was orignally going for an EPI stack but after reading that is more for cutting I would prefer something that would put some mass on!

    During: Cycle Assist, Fish Oils...

    Pro-Mag

    Week 1 35mg ed
    Week 2-5 75mg ed

    PCT
    Week 6-9
    Nolva 20mg ed
    DAA 3g ed
    Creatine 5g ed

    Good?



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    1st thing.. If you want to add mass.. Id say p-mag is better ran as a 8week cycle along these doses

    50/75/75/75/75/100/100/100 or 125

    Depending on if ur getting sides you can bump it to 125

    Pmag is similiar to hdrol and thts how i ran my hdrol cycle in the past and added 6lbs but also lost a good amount of fat on cycle

    Also i see u put creatine in pct.. You shud run in during cycle also

    And idk if u just forgot to mention it but multi vitamins are important also

    Also for ur pct i see u hve daa which is great for a t booster.. But i always like to have an AI on hand also for pct

    Something like pes erase or triazole
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    most avoid creatine during cycle to lessen any stress put on the liver especially if its being recommended for 8 weeks but to each is their own.
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    Ehh i use creatine mono year round. But true u do have a point.
    But with proper liver supports im sure it wouldnt be to harsh pmag isnt bad as it is

    But it is always better to be safe then sorry
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    Is an AI needed for pct?

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    Creatine takes about 2-3 months to leave your system. I would use creatinol o phosphate on cycle and resume creatine mono 1 week into PCT along with your liver supports

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    Yea its deffly recommended .. Idk if your prone to gyno or not.
    But an ai will help with any sides of gyno.. And also help getting your buddies down there back to normal faster along with the t booster and serm
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    Whats an alternative from erase as it killed my libido big time

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    I really like triazole by driven sports

    Thats wht i always use.
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    Why use Pmag when you can use mechabol? Mechabol is what Pmag converts to. Better to just use the actual thing

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    Originally Posted by ashmo
    Whats an alternative from erase as it killed my libido big time
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    Originally Posted by ashmo View Post
    Whats an alternative from erase as it killed my libido big time
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    Originally Posted by ion26 View Post
    Why use Pmag when you can use mechabol? Mechabol is what Pmag converts to. Better to just use the actual thing
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    Originally Posted by ashmo
    Going to be running my first ph cycle hoping to get it all in before the new year.

    After the usual benefits, lowest side effects, lean/dry out, fat loss...

    Was orignally going for an EPI stack but after reading that is more for cutting I would prefer something that would put some mass on!

    During: Cycle Assist, Fish Oils...

    Pro-Mag

    Week 1 35mg ed
    Week 2-5 75mg ed

    PCT
    Week 6-9
    Nolva 20mg ed
    DAA 3g ed
    Creatine 5g ed

    Good?
    You could successfully do epi as a bulker it would be a lean bulk though, also Hdrol is a great one

    Your pct is awful though, never use nolvadex it decreases collagen synthesis an increases blood clotting an since your rbc will be up this is a disaster waiting to happen

    This is what it should be

    Torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 25/25/25/25
    Daa 3g a day
    6-oxo by ironmag labs
    Recycle by purus labs

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