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    Hey guys first of all I would like to say I'm brand new here, I read forums here sometimes but never have posted, but I thought I wanted to give this place a try! Anyways on to what I am trying to do here:

    My 22nd birthday is soon and wanted to start a first cycle with birthday money I will be receiving!
    I want to get Havoc/Epistane and PCT with Liquid Nolva.
    My questions are, How many weeks should I run the epi/havoc for?
    Also what am I missing to make this an effective first cycle?
    Thanks in advance everyone!

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    Can you fill me in then? What all am I being a retard about? Not here to be flamed, just here to learn
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    Use the search function, bro. It's pretty much the only thing I use on here. Just soak up knowledge until you can host a lecture on Epistane cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herderdude View Post
    Use the search function, bro. It's pretty much the only thing I use on here. Just soak up knowledge until you can host a lecture on Epistane cycles.
    Yesssir. But my question is what else do I need for PCT besides liquid nolva?
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    You're gonna want a natty test booster (I prefer DAA) and an anti estrogen AT THE VERY LEAST. Like I said, it's all out there, a thousand times over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herderdude View Post
    You're gonna want a natty test booster (I prefer DAA) and an anti estrogen AT THE VERY LEAST. Like I said, it's all out there, a thousand times over.
    So PCT would be nolva and DAA? what else should be used?
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    So how many of you phaggots are Miscers as well?
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    Thanks for the help with that gregg! definitely a wonderful link. I'll be sure to do more research and then let the board review my cycle when done.
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    Definitely nice work on that thread, Gregg.

    Just wanted to let you know I bookmarked it for reference purposes and for its great attention to detail.

    As opposed to going ape **** 30/40/50/60 on my current Epi cycle, I kept my feet on the ground because I had already bookmarked the voice of reason.
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    No real need for a first time user to hit 60mg of Epi.

    IMO run 40mg all the way through and consider 5-6 weeks as Epistane is not too fast to kick in, nor one of the more toxic products and can be run a little longer to ensure you get the most from it.

    You mentioned Nolva and D-AA - that would be fine for a PCT.

    On cycle really does not need to be much, I would recommend the bulk of on cycle support be in the form of fish oils to compensate the often very dry joints you can get from compounds that are as dry as Epi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW390898
    No real need for a first time user to hit 60mg of Epi...
    You're absolutely right, man. I'm just saying, I had to check myself before I wrecked myself.

    Not gonna lie, my first cycle of epi, I went 20 for a day, 30 for a few, 40 for a few... up to 60. Then my bottle ran out after three and a half weeks and my second bottle was bunk. Phuckin Amazon.

    Back pumps ravaged me and I didn't keep as much as I liked, but DAMN did I get strong! My second run (started today) is much more conservative, and I'm using 4AD as a test base. Kinda pumped about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW390898 View Post
    No real need for a first time user to hit 60mg of Epi.

    IMO run 40mg all the way through and consider 5-6 weeks as Epistane is not too fast to kick in, nor one of the more toxic products and can be run a little longer to ensure you get the most from it.

    You mentioned Nolva and D-AA - that would be fine for a PCT.

    On cycle really does not need to be much, I would recommend the bulk of on cycle support be in the form of fish oils to compensate the often very dry joints you can get from compounds that are as dry as Epi.
    With this said, would it be an idea to add a wet prohormone to stack with epi? or should I stick to just epi as a first cycle?
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    Go solo, bro. You gotta know what compound is causing what effect. Trust me, you're gonna be like "HOW DOES IT GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS!?" On Epi solo. It sneaks and sneaks and then hits real good mhm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herderdude View Post
    Go solo, bro. You gotta know what compound is causing what effect. Trust me, you're gonna be like "HOW DOES IT GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS!?" On Epi solo. It sneaks and sneaks and then hits real good mhm.
    Sounds good, thanks everyone for all the help! I'm excited to learn more and get my cycle goin!
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    First cycle keep it simple.

    You add things in you have no experience to determine what is responsible for what good or bad - you have picked out a mild compound and one which offers simple recovery (this is a good approach for first time) so why then do something totally conflicting like stack another product and complicate the cycle and sides.

    Solo, baby steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW390898 View Post
    First cycle keep it simple.

    You add things in you have no experience to determine what is responsible for what good or bad - you have picked out a mild compound and one which offers simple recovery (this is a good approach for first time) so why then do something totally conflicting like stack another product and complicate the cycle and sides.

    Solo, baby steps.
    I'll stick to just epi at six weeks. Running 30/40/40/40/40/40
    I should only need 2 bottles correct? If I did my math right lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by td.lessar View Post
    I'll stick to just epi at six weeks. Running 30/40/40/40/40/40
    I should only need 2 bottles correct? If I did my math right lol
    Yea mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infekted_87 View Post
    Yea mate

    Thanks so much! I think I have it setup for the most part guys.
    Epi 30/40/40/40/40/40
    PCT
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA 3/3/3/3/3
    Erase 0/0/3/2/2/1

    Correct me if I'm wrong? Also what all will I need for support? Should I really worry about joint problems? And what about hawthorne for blood pressure??
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    Quote Originally Posted by td.lessar View Post
    Thanks so much! I think I have it setup for the most part guys.
    Epi 30/40/40/40/40/40
    PCT
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA 3/3/3/3/3
    Erase 0/0/3/2/2/1


    Correct me if I'm wrong? Also what all will I need for support? Should I really worry about joint problems? And what about hawthorne for blood pressure??
    cycle assist from start to finish (including pct), or u could jus buy hawthorn berry, saw palmetto an liv 52 separately.. blood pressure would be the main side to worry bout
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infekted_87 View Post
    cycle assist from start to finish (including pct), or u could jus buy hawthorn berry, saw palmetto an liv 52 separately.. blood pressure would be the main side to worry bout
    I have high blood pressure as it is. So stopping this side would be my main priority. What do i need to stop it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by td.lessar View Post
    Thanks so much! I think I have it setup for the most part guys.
    Epi 30/40/40/40/40/40
    PCT
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    DAA 3/3/3/3/3
    Erase 0/0/3/2/2/1

    Correct me if I'm wrong? Also what all will I need for support? Should I really worry about joint problems? And what about hawthorne for blood pressure??
    hawthorn berry, an celery seed (if u want)
    Last edited by Infekted_87; 11-01-2012 at 03:54 AM. Reason: double post
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    Since this is your first cycle...

    Epi: 30/30/30/30
    DHEA: 100/100/100/100
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    Fish Oil

    PCT: to be safe, although EPI is primarily mild.
    Toremifene: 60/60/60/60
    E-control Rx

    Keep clean calories up and protein up. Drink a lot of water and train hard.
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    What's the rationale behind DHEA on cycle? I was under the impression that it had poor oral bioavailability and could convert freely to test or estrogen. Which, by my logic, would cause it to convert almost entirely to estrogen when pitted against Epi. If I'm wrong, by all means, I'm here to learn
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    Epi is an overall mild, methylated designer steroid. The DHEA at a dose of 100mg a day will not have much effect on the test or estrogen aspect but it will help you to keep your libido. My libido died on epi, but DHEA kept me going so I could still bang my girlfriend.
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    Ah, yes. As a man with no game whatsoever, I often neglect the libido aspect of cycles. Good look.
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