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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn

    Dunno, It appears that HenryV banned him for pulling that sh*t over there.

    It still amazes me that people don't have everything on hand before starting a cycle.
    Not everyone is informed enough to do so. We see it all the time.
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    when this kind of stuff happens its never good for any of us. i hope things work out ok.at the end of the day we are all one big family within the supplement. industry. and when this happens it hurts us all. hopeful its sorted out soon
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    For the Industry?


    For the industry? Things are how they have always been and as they probably always will be.... sad but true. You can have good products and go above and beyond to build a company that is FDA regulated and GMP compliant, tested and proven, ex,ex.. You can get slammed by real roid users because your **** is legit and still have the FDA use you as an example.. Yes, it probably had something to do with using the word steroid; which puts us in a dangerous place for being next and it probably had something to do with the FDA regulated Testosterone you get from a clinic. It takes a lot for us guys to come out and claim that our products can stand their own next to prescription drugs. So what will that do to the industry? What is has always done; we will build it and they will come...so then we build it again. ANDRO FACTORY has legit products that are comparable to prescriptions Testosterone and Primordial Performance is being made an example right now. That is bad for all of us.
    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    My biggest concern is what do you think this will do to the supplement industry?
    Is this just the beginning?
    Is it because PP had the word "steroid" on their products?
    There had to have been a red flag somewhere. Still seems like they are staying on the legal side with their supplements so I'm surprised to see this news.
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    Sad news. FDA is forcing us to go the injectable route.

    PP is a pioneer in this industry and I like the idea of healthier prohormones. Hopefully this is not an end to 4-DHEA. Otherwise companies have to start selling cholesterol, a precursor to all steroids.
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    PP customers,

    Please be aware that the owner of AndroFactory, Venus Winkler was a previous employee of Primordial Performance who was laid off in Dec 2011. It appears that she took our email list upon leaving and is now advertising her "Bulk-up" product to our customers.

    Note: We do not store credit card information, nor have we had any reports of identify theft or fraud since she left the company. We do not believe this is a risk.

    If you have received an unsolicited email from AndroFactory, and do not wish to receive AndroFactory emails any longer, I suggest recovering the email and marking it as SPAM in your email client. This will send a message to blacklist this sender.

    In addition, we do not support the AndroFactory products, nor do we know of their quality or if they are meeting label claims. We suggest customers pursue this option with caution. If they don't experience the results they are expecting, we don't want this to negatively effect their opinion of our AndroSeries line, since they are NOT the same products. (although are being advertised as such)

    I apologize for any inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn
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    PP customers,

    Please be aware that the owner of AndroFactory, Venus Winkler was a previous employee of Primordial Performance who was laid off in Dec 2011. It appears that she took our email list upon leaving and is now advertising her "Bulk-up" product to our customers.

    Note: We do not store credit card information, nor have we had any reports of identify theft or fraud since she left the company. We do not believe this is a risk.

    If you have received an unsolicited email from AndroFactory, and do not wish to receive AndroFactory emails any longer, I suggest recovering the email and marking it as SPAM in your email client. This will send a message to blacklist this sender.

    In addition, we do not support the AndroFactory products, nor do we know of their quality or if they are meeting label claims. We suggest customers pursue this option with caution. If they don't experience the results they are expecting, we don't want this to negatively effect their opinion of our AndroSeries line, since they are NOT the same products. (although are being advertised as such)

    I apologize for any inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

    -Eric Potratz
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    Nice! Hope everybody reads this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory
    I'll only say this once. Keep it off this thread.
    Why? Sounded about right to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory
    On another note. We're welcoming open comments and questions to support PP in this difficult time. As stated before, their products are safe and legal and no one should have any concern if they have their products in hand at this time. This raid was total crap.
    So you mean anyone with a receipt of a recent order to pp for their andro products, and was not able to be filled d/t the FDA raid, you will kindly help out, and fill it free of charge? That's cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
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    PP customers,

    Please be aware that the owner of AndroFactory, Venus Winkler was a previous employee of Primordial Performance who was laid off in Dec 2011. It appears that she took our email list upon leaving and is now advertising her "Bulk-up" product to our customers.

    Note: We do not store credit card information, nor have we had any reports of identify theft or fraud since she left the company. We do not believe this is a risk.

    If you have received an unsolicited email from AndroFactory, and do not wish to receive AndroFactory emails any longer, I suggest recovering the email and marking it as SPAM in your email client. This will send a message to blacklist this sender.

    In addition, we do not support the AndroFactory products, nor do we know of their quality or if they are meeting label claims. We suggest customers pursue this option with caution. If they don't experience the results they are expecting, we don't want this to negatively effect their opinion of our AndroSeries line, since they are NOT the same products. (although are being advertised as such)

    I apologize for any inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

    -Eric Potratz
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    signing in as having been spammed by those ***s.
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    Can a mod please close this thread? What a ****ing pathetic money grab attempt.

    One of thier reps, LiftforLife, attempted the same thing at PHF and was banned. Some companies will always leave a distaste in your mouth.

    For those wanting news as it happens, follow the thread on PP forums.

    I will try to keep outside boards updated. AM will be updated in this thread: Primordial Performance raided by FDA
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    This just makes me want to go with real gear now.

    All the best to Eric and the PP crew, good products, good people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn
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    PP customers,

    Please be aware that the owner of AndroFactory, Venus Winkler was a previous employee of Primordial Performance who was laid off in Dec 2011. It appears that she took our email list upon leaving and is now advertising her "Bulk-up" product to our customers.

    Note: We do not store credit card information, nor have we had any reports of identify theft or fraud since she left the company. We do not believe this is a risk.

    If you have received an unsolicited email from AndroFactory, and do not wish to receive AndroFactory emails any longer, I suggest recovering the email and marking it as SPAM in your email client. This will send a message to blacklist this sender.

    In addition, we do not support the AndroFactory products, nor do we know of their quality or if they are meeting label claims. We suggest customers pursue this option with caution. If they don't experience the results they are expecting, we don't want this to negatively effect their opinion of our AndroSeries line, since they are NOT the same products. (although are being advertised as such)

    I apologize for any inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

    -Eric Potratz
    President & Founder




    Old news if it was done it's done.
    Company seems respectable @ this point & the representation has been positive, but I don't really know what to make about all the chaos.
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    John, I think this backfired to the point it might be best it is left open lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    John, I think this backfired to the point it might be best it is left open lol.
    You are probably right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    My biggest concern is what do you think this will do to the supplement industry?
    Is this just the beginning?
    Is it because PP had the word "steroid" on their products?
    There had to have been a red flag somewhere. Still seems like they are staying on the legal side with their supplements so I'm surprised to see this news.
    Some of my first thoughts upon reading this.
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    All this and they still can't make sure people don't die from salmonella on spinach. Well done FDA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
    What a sleezy move... "We're sorry, But since they are out of the game please buy our products".

    Not as sleezy when you stole all of PP's customers emails and sent them spam emails about AndroFactory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Can a mod please close this thread? What a ****ing pathetic money grab attempt.

    One of thier reps, LiftforLife, attempted the same thing at PHF and was banned. Some companies will always leave a distaste in your mouth.

    For those wanting news as it happens, follow the thread on PP forums.

    I will try to keep outside boards updated. AM will be updated in this thread: Primordial Performance raided by FDA
    wow, i totally bought that sh*t. well I feel like a heel, lol

    edit: bought as in believed, not spent money on AF products.
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    Poor AndroFactory... Maybe you shouldn't have been such a dick to a potential customer and handled things differently. I'm dead serious, I just wanted a simple apology and then i'm off this thread, But you couldn't even do that!! Just goes to show what kind of ****ty business model you have. It's sad that you guys would even compare yourself to Eric or PP. Eric gave me a f*cking apology and he wasn't even the one that stole our sh*t!!! You guys are scum. Every time I see a thread about AndroFactory you can bet i'll be linking it to this thread.

    Btw, An apology at this point is only for PR and to clean up this mess. It's too late, I gave you plenty of chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    wow, i totally bought that sh*t. well I feel like a heel, lol

    edit: bought as in believed, not spent money on AF products.
    I can say I was sold on a few of the products myself. I will have to research more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androfactory View Post
    On another note. We're welcoming open comments and questions to support PP in this difficult time. As stated before, their products are safe and legal and no one should have any concern if they have their products in hand at this time. This raid was total crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    John, I think this backfired to the point it might be best it is left open lol.
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    Andro factory failed Tact 101 class. True story.
    They expected me to, simply put... shut the f*ck up and go away. Well, Look where we are now

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    ^^ this

    and whoever fkn says they 'know they r cool' , sure haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn

    They expected me to, simply put... shut the f*ck up and go away. Well, Look where we are now

    Yeah... And Obama and Mitt are bff's. lol
    Points been made bro...

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