Ratio's 1-test - 4-ad
2:1 very lean gains
1:1 lean but some water
1:2 lots of water and some bf% gain will probably be noticed
The side effects from the 4-ad are minimal. You may get itchy nips but thats about it. Nothing to worry about. The 1-test can give you hairloss and enlarged prostate(androgenic).. Other than that the only other side effect is lethargy from the 1-test. You always want to do about at least 1/2 as much 4-ad to 1-test to combat this hinderence of a side effect.... Then you grow.... hehehee. Hope that helps.. talk to ya...