Are AMS kit really this underdosed??

[SixandaHalf]

I actually did two tabs of 4ad and two doses of mass drops which is the 1a and Deca together...same thing.

Did you dissolve them100% orally or follow normal directions of swallow after 30 secs? Gotta say Im a little bummed I follow directions because I think I would have had a better run completely dissolving them from the start.

[SixandaHalf]

I would definitely run 4ad at 4 caps ed. I ran it with SD at the beginning of the cycle I'm in now and then bridged into stano(with one week where I was taking 30mg SD, 800mg 4ad, and 800mg stano). 4ad needs to be dosed high, I think it was effective for what I wanted it for which was to try to keep the SD side effect down, which I think it did since I had weaker sides on SD than on halodrol.

Seems like 3-4 a day is the only way I felt anything. AND thats with not following directions and letting them dissolve all the way. Maybe if I let them dissolve a the way from the start then 3 ed would have sufficed. Who knows... now Im really not sure how effective this whole run was. Im up about 6+ lbs so obviously something is working.

[jerrysiii]

Im up about 6+ lbs so obviously something is working.

Sounds like a great run. If you were expecting more then your expectation are just too high. This is not sd and it is not meant to be. Users chose these products because they are a safer alternative to methylated oral steroids.

[SixandaHalf]

Sounds like a great run. If you were expecting more then your expectation are just too high. This is not sd and it is not meant to be. Users chose these products because they are a safer alternative to methylated oral steroids.

Indeed, thats why I chose it after the few years of research. I will say probably only 3-4 lbs is muscle and have not gotten much more than 5-10 lbs increases at most on major lifts. Iso lifts stayed about normal. Thats pretty much why my expectations were higher. Anyone can eat and gain a pound a week (half being fat). It IS still a slightly noticeable difference but... I have a feeling if I did it over, I could get up better numbers. It was a good cycle to start learning.

[CopyCat]

SixandaHalf: Just saw this thread... I'm sorry to hear that you haven't been fully thrilled with your cycle. As it seems some have pointed out that it is true these products really shouldn't be compared to some of the stronger ph/aas on the market out there. Just kind of not equal footing between them.

I also understand the confusion on how to dissolve the tablets. The dhea's have pretty poor oral bioavailability, which is why they are in the rapid dissolve tablet in order to be absorbed via the oral mucosal membranes. It is pretty important to ensure they are dissolved completely and allowed to absorb for as long as one reasonably can. It often helps to score or bite them in half (but not chew them up) to help the process along. I'll talk to my bosses actually and make a suggestion on the label directions to see if we can't get them updated to be a bit clearer on future packaging.

In your last post, you stated that you were up about 6lbs. Honestly, that seems like a decent run. Most people can't put on 6lbs in just a few weeks without it being a lot of fat accumulation. In addition, that was being far less harsh on the liver and body as many of the stronger methylated products out there.

Truly though, I, and AMS do appreciate any and all feedback. It helps us understand where we are at as a company and helps us to continue growing and providing a product that our consumers like.

[SixandaHalf]

SixandaHalf: Just saw this thread... I'm sorry to hear that you haven't been fully thrilled with your cycle. As it seems some have pointed out that it is true these products really shouldn't be compared to some of the stronger ph/aas on the market out there. Just kind of not equal footing between them.

I also understand the confusion on how to dissolve the tablets. The dhea's have pretty poor oral bioavailability, which is why they are in the rapid dissolve tablet in order to be absorbed via the oral mucosal membranes. It is pretty important to ensure they are dissolved completely and allowed to absorb for as long as one reasonably can. It often helps to score or bite them in half (but not chew them up) to help the process along. I'll talk to my bosses actually and make a suggestion on the label directions to see if we can't get them updated to be a bit clearer on future packaging.

In your last post, you stated that you were up about 6lbs. Honestly, that seems like a decent run. Most people can't put on 6lbs in just a few weeks without it being a lot of fat accumulation. In addition, that was being far less harsh on the liver and body as many of the stronger methylated products out there.

Truly though, I, and AMS do appreciate any and all feedback. It helps us understand where we are at as a company and helps us to continue growing and providing a product that our consumers like.

Thanks for the feedback. Just being honest and I will say I probably would be further along if I would have dissolved them all the way from the start. These arent bad products imo, just need to be used the right way in proportion to what you want out of them and that means upping the doses and completely dissolving. The 4-ad and deca dissovle all the way no prob. The 1-andro usually takes a break/bite in half and then it dissolves reasonably. Andro sorta burns eventually so I can tell its absorbing haha. I still got a week or more of solid product dosed high and Im expecting a few more pounds. I wont let myself fall short of a decent run. Ill be satisfied Im sure and next time will be better, lets not forget I almost took the whole week 4 off from dental drama.

[forcefan27]

Did you dissolve them100% orally or follow normal directions of swallow after 30 secs? Gotta say Im a little bummed I follow directions because I think I would have had a better run completely dissolving them from the start.

I'd put it under my tounge and let it start to dissolve for a few minutes, I'd bite it and break it up and let it dissolve...only took 30 seconds after that.

[JD261985]

If I wanted to run AMS decavol 1ad and 4 ad would it be best yo run it 8 weeks at the standard 2 rde tabs a day or should I run it 4 weeks and double dose it? I have two of the anabolic growth kits.

[forcefan27]

I have two kits and will be running it at 8 weeks.

[SixandaHalf]

They are very underdosed. I would use 3 ed for 6 weeks at least. Even this for me didn't yield much for me sorry to say. About to finish my 6th week and honestly not much more results than I had with Activate, Triazole and daa (complete natty stack). And that's with 1-ad also. Def not using SERM but everyone is different.

Small strength increase, acne and a little muscle hardness. Up about 5-6 lbs, half of which is probably fat.