Slight shut down 1st week of trenazone/stano

[seanghetto]

Tren non responder? Is that even possible?

I think hes probably just not taking enough. They say theirs 75mg dienolone in each 1ml but how much of that actually is absorbed properly is the question. I personally think AL have overhyped their transdermal delivery effectiveness a bit.
I apply and think its completely absorbed in hours later as i cant feel anything on my skin but then when i have a shower and water hits it its immediately all oily like it was still on their but just dried and the water re-moistened it or something.

[BigBlackGuy]

im on week 3 of trenazone solo 2ml daily. balls and libido went down a bit first week but then back up to normal on second and has stayed good. Tren doesnt shut everyone down because its not shutting me down at all. have gained 7lbs on a cutting diet. Does seem like a pretty weak steroid at these dosages though. To get real good size and strength gains i think you would need to run at 3ml/day. Thats what i would be doing if i was trying to bulk, but im just trying to cut up a bit for summer and prevent losing muscle while cutting. No sides either, but i run 5ml/day aromasin because it definitely aromatises no matter what antaeus labs say. Had immediately very sensitive nips within hours of taking my firsy dose and as soon as i hit aromasin a few days later it took it away.

7 pounds on a cut sounds pretty good man!

[chris223]

7 pounds on a cut sounds pretty good man!

Yeah that's stellar.

[chris223]

I think hes probably just not taking enough. They say theirs 75mg dienolone in each 1ml but how much of that actually is absorbed properly is the question. I personally think AL have overhyped their transdermal delivery effectiveness a bit.
I apply and think its completely absorbed in hours later as i cant feel anything on my skin but then when i have a shower and water hits it its immediately all oily like it was still on their but just dried and the water re-moistened it or something.

Just because the carrier is still present on the skin doesn't mean all of the hormone hasn't absorbed. The carrier itself doesn't need to absorb; it only needs to allow for application and promote transfer of the hormone into the skin. A leftover residue doesn't necessarily indicate that the hormone is not absorbing effectively.

[MRogers]

Idk guys **** it I'm bumping up the dosage I'm not having any noticeable sides besides shutdown anyway lets see what happens. Thing is I don't weigh a lot so didn't think I would need this much. Everybody is different though I guess.

[seanghetto]

Just because the carrier is still present on the skin doesn't mean all of the hormone hasn't absorbed. The carrier itself doesn't need to absorb; it only needs to allow for application and promote transfer of the hormone into the skin. A leftover residue doesn't necessarily indicate that the hormone is not absorbing effectively.

the carrier is isopropyl alcohol which evaporates very quickly. so you rub it on ure skin, the alcohol evaporates and leaves the dienolone behind from what i understand... not 100% sure though.

[BigBlackGuy]

Let us know how it goes MR with the upped dose. Interested to see if results improve.

[seanghetto]

how the stano/tren go? did u switch to epi? I added mechabol in for 4 weeks at the end and am finishing up today. was a pretty good run overall...no sides? mechabol would be a great bridge from tren. its safe to bridge from a trenazone only cycle because its not methyl or very androgenic but stano is another question. Im pretty sure high androgen ph are very bad for liver regardless of whether its methylated. they advise you use TUDCA when on high andro cycles..

[JakeAntaeus]

the carrier is isopropyl alcohol which evaporates very quickly. so you rub it on ure skin, the alcohol evaporates and leaves the dienolone behind from what i understand... not 100% sure though.

The carrier is only roughly 30% isopropyl alcohol. The rest is propylene glycol, oleic acid (an oil), glycerin, BA, and a chemical penetration enhancer. The alcohol evaporates quickly, but the rest will stay on your skin as a sort of depot. It can take over 24h to absorb a single dose, so one shouldn't expect it all to vanish utterly after a couple of hours.
Thanks very much for the support, by the way! (And 7lbs up on a cut is very good...!)

-Jake

[seanghetto]

I ordered 3 more bottles of mechabol like 3 weeks ago and got express shipping and it hasnt arrived yet. customs have stopped it perhaps? Are there any aussies here that have had ph's stopped by customs? if so did u get in trouble?