Must-have ingredients for test cycle support?

[jbryand101b]

OK.

You can run 250mg and see very mild and light results if your diet and training are spot on and you run it long enough.

You don't NEED 500mg regardless of what anyone here tells you.

You do not NEED an AI on cycle or post cycle regardless of what anyone here tells you.

You do not NEED any cycle support products regardless of what anyone here tells you.

You NEED a SERM for post cycle.

Well, you don't NEED anything for post cycle either.

[David Dunn]

David care to tell us why he shouldn't run supps to support his cholesterol, blood pressure or liver?

And wouldn't it be handy to have an AI on hand just in case he starts developing gyno or other estrogen related sides?

Sure. 250mg of testosterone will bring his total test to about 1800-2000 which is not considerably highre than physiological range.

It will have very little if any effect on his cholesterol in the run of a 12-16 weeks cycle. It will have little if any effect on his blood pressure in a 12-16 weeks cycle. It is not hepatotoxic so liver is no issue.

At 250mg his level of estrogen should not be exceedingly high. Experience has shown me that at 200mg it was about 70 on a scale of 7.6-42.6.

[David Dunn]

Well, you don't NEED anything for post cycle either.

Correct! Case closed

[technique88]

OK.

You can run 250mg and see very mild and light results if your diet and training are spot on and you run it long enough.

You don't NEED 500mg regardless of what anyone here tells you.

You do not NEED an AI on cycle or post cycle regardless of what anyone here tells you.

You do not NEED any cycle support products regardless of what anyone here tells you.

You NEED a SERM for post cycle.

Agreed! I am a firm believer in less is more. It's nice to be safe but the less drugs you need to put in your body the better. Some will say you NEED hcg and need and AI but that's not true. Some may need and some may not. Everybody reacts differently to steroids so what works for me may not work for you. Start off as basic as possible. Have ancillaries on hand just in case but listen to your body. What you read on here is cookie cutter what seems to be most common practice advice. Use it as a guide. You don't need to take it all literally.

[ironwiz]

Sure. 250mg of testosterone will bring his total test to about 1800-2000 which is not considerably highre than physiological range.

It will have very little if any effect on his cholesterol in the run of a 12-16 weeks cycle. It will have little if any effect on his blood pressure in a 12-16 weeks cycle. It is not hepatotoxic so liver is no issue.

At 250mg his level of estrogen should not be exceedingly high. Experience has shown me that at 200mg it was about 70 on a scale of 7.6-42.6.

Thanks for the reply.

What about if he was running 600-800mg. Then an AI and maybe some blood pressure supps would be handy?



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