Stano 200 questions
- 10-08-2012, 08:21 PM
- 10-08-2012, 08:49 PM
- 5'6" 165 lbs.
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i wouldnt pulse stanoLG Sciences forum representative
- 10-08-2012, 08:54 PM
As in take it straight through, or dont add it?
10-08-2012, 09:02 PM
- 5'6" 165 lbs.
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are you trying to avoid pct?
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10-08-2012, 09:15 PM
I'd pulse the SD and use the stano everyday at 800mg.
I'm assuming you're pulsing the SD in order to use OTC PCT instead of a SERM?
10-08-2012, 09:45 PM
10-08-2012, 09:53 PM
10-08-2012, 10:41 PM
dude check out T-Force by Omega Sports. its main ingredient fadogia agrestis has a ton of studies behind it that show that it increases LH output, prevents atrophy by keeping leydig cells stimulated, and reduces HPTA disruption. i'm using it on my dmz cycle and haven't had any shrinkage. also makes libido go sky highhhh
10-08-2012, 10:44 PM
this one one of the reviews on it..
"This product, is absolutely amazing. I used it for one purpose: to prevent testicular atrophy while on Epi/Trenazone cycle.
This product contains Fadogia Aggrestis, which is also the primary component in Need2BuildMuscle's HCGenerate, which alot of people swear by it from what I have read.
If you are interested, you can do the research about how exactly this works, but I am here to tell you that it certainly does work.
My first couple of ph/ds cycles I would get testicular atrophy (shrinking) and aching at week 4. This happened all 4 cycles I have done that I didn't use this product. It gets pretty frustrating and eventually I end my cycles at the point I can't tolerate it past week 4..usualy during week 5 at some point. I got checked out by a Dr. the first time this happened, I told him everything I was doing, and he said I was fine. Bloodwork showed my test was below 100 which is obviously the result of being on cycle.
So I started researching ways to prevent this, including the use of HCG, which I wouldn't do due to legality issues and my chosen profession. I needed something legal and effective. I found HCGenerate had great reviews, and I started breaking down the ingredients in it. Everything you normally see in a natty test booster, kind of like Animal Stak actually, except the Fadogia. I read up on Fadogia and found other products that contained it, and which ones had positive reviews.
I chose T-Force, and it works brothers.
I picked it up from ************* for $20....(its 2 for $30 at nutra). Dang good deal...I have had no pain, no aches, no shrinkage.
It also has another interesting effect, in that it makes you a "better actor than Peter North" when you and the lady are hanging out. (or if your by yourself too, I guess...) Sorry don't know how else to put that in a more PC way. If you don't get it, go find out what Peter North was famous for."
10-09-2012, 02:36 AM
Wow I didn't know that the active ingredient in hcgerneate/tforce would prevent atrophy.
I might look into it for my ph cycle coming up, it would mean I would recover faster during My pct right? Hence holding on to more gains?
10-09-2012, 10:35 AM
yup. I'm using it as part of PCT also. Theres studies behind it that show it raises test up to 600% in 10 days. Something like DAA is good for PCT but if using it at a stand alone test booster you will probably only see ok gains. Its claims are it raises test 42% in 12 days. This is where people get confused. its not 420%. lets say your test is at 700. a 42% increase would be at 742. And 42 % was the highest of the people being tested. I will probably never do a PCT again with out T-force, or at least something with fadogia agrestis. With the libido and energy level rise you can feel it working. It is a safe and natural way to prevent full shutdown, and to raise endogenous test levels. If you don't want to use it during cycle you could also start it about 5 days before the end of your cycle and use it till about 2 weeks into PCT and i bet you would recover alot faster
10-09-2012, 11:49 AM
There's only one way to keep your nuts working on cycle... and that's by pinning hCG.
Run Stano anywhere from 600-1200 a day and run SD straight through. Intentionally fluctuating hormone levels by pulsing is flawed thinking.
Also, you can't judge shutdown by how big or small your nuts feel. Shutdown is when the pituitary stops LH production, and in return the Leydig cells in your testes stop secreting testosterone, androstenedione, and DHEA.
Fadogia Agrestis is the answer you say? Find me a human study... All the ones people cite are animal and insignificant to us. To further this point, here is another example. Clen is anti-catabolic and even pro-anabolic in animals depending on the dosage. This cannot be replicated in human studies... in fact, the dosages used in many of these animal studies are lethal to humans.
No SERM, No Cycle, No Problem.
10-09-2012, 10:16 PM
"Testicular size is a good indicator of whether the testicles are doing what they’re supposed to do, i.e. producing testosterone. That’s why steroid users complain of shrunken testicles on a cycle - because their body is getting testosterone from an outside source and no longer needs to produce it. The result? Smaller testicles. It’s also why men who use human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) report an increase in testicular size - HCG kick starts the testicles into pumping out more testosterone. In this study, what the scientists found was that ten days after stopping Fadogia, the treated group’s testicular size (testes/bodyweight) was 15% bigger than the control group. This is good evidence that Fadogia provides results that appear to be similar to HCG.
The next area scientists looked at was the concentration of testicular cholesterol. Although we’ve been conditioned to think of cholesterol as ’bad,’ it’s actually the building block of testosterone. Different parts of your body use cholesterol to form different steroid metabolites. And in the testicles where we find the enzymes that convert cholesterol to testosterone. The more cholesterol available to your testes, the more testosterone you can produce. There was a distinct increase in testicular cholesterol in the treated group versus the control group, and this advantage to the treated group remained present even 28 days from the time Fadogia administration ceased. And just to reiterate, we’re not talking about serum levels of cholesterol - the stuff you get measured on a blood test - we’re only talking about the actual level of cholesterol found inside the testes.
Another study published in the September, 2010, issue of Neurophysiology, also proved shown that Fadogia has potent analgesic (pain relieving) and anti-inflammatory properties. So if you’ve ever taken a couple of aspirin after a hard workout or game, you might find that your regular dose of Fadogia is more than enough to keep you from getting sore. This is unique to Fadogia among all test-boosters, and it’s actually a great one-two punch for intense athletes. You see, the testosterone boosting properties of the herb will help you lift a lot harder and heavier when you train at the gym and will aid in your muscle tissue repair, while the anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties of the herb will help keep you coming back, day after day, without getting overly-sore. These recovery benefits are probably one of the main reasons we see users getting to the gym, day after day, week after week, on a Fadogia cycle, and still not feeling beat up."
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