Brand New... and very confused... just need some simple input

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    Andromass and halo would an awesome first cycle so listen to this^^^^

    I ran hdrol and andro hard my first cycle and loved it.
    Not androbulk? what about androbulk and hdrol?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by srb2112

    Not androbulk? what about androbulk and hdrol?
    That would be an interesting stack indeed.

    The andro series fit nicely into any cycle because of their non toxicity and the different types.rhey would also make a great cycle stand alone if you are going for the safest route. I've included the andro series into every cycle I ran.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
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  3. op, youre gonna get a thousand diffent ideas if you listn to everybody. thats why you need to do your own research and make your own decision on what you want to run. if you incude any oral other than a dhea derivitive, youre gonna need a serm too

  4. Quote Originally Posted by srb2112

    Not androbulk? what about androbulk and hdrol?
    If you have the money and war the safest, I'd say get yourself and androbulk/ andro hard stack. The andro hard would be a great DHT base for keeping things hard and keeping any 19nor sides at bay. Although I highly doubt androbulk would create 19nor sides.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  5. would the andromass help minimize fat gain? or would androbulk help?
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  6. fat gain is gonna be reliant on diet. dnt worry about fat gain too much though, you can always cut after pct. take advantage of the cycle while youre on

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    fat gain is gonna be reliant on diet. dnt worry about fat gain too much though, you can always cut after pct. take advantage of the cycle while youre on
    Diet will be very strict.... i will probably eat to maintence ONLY no more.... high protein, mild carbs and low fat....

  8. Should I take Creatine along with this stack?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by srb2112
    Should I take Creatine along with this stack?
    You could take creatine anytime. Some people are always taking creatine, it couldn't help. You should definitely eat above maintainance for better gains. Just eat clean.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    You still need cycle support. You do know steroids are bad for you right?

    8 week cycle, 10-20lbs, AND OTC pct, sounds like a dream come true.
    I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt a pp rep is going to condone stacking andromass with anything for 8 weeks and going with an OTC pct.
    Wtf.
    Well I gained 15 lbs on AM for 8 weeks and kept it with their OTC PCT. I even gained 2 lbs in PCT lol

    I don't see the point for a cycle support with them, I had no blood pressure issues, no acne, wasn't lethargic, and my libido was perfect during the cycle and off it.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by UnderXero

    Well I gained 15 lbs on AM for 8 weeks and kept it with their OTC PCT. I even gained 2 lbs in PCT lol

    I don't see the point for a cycle support with them, I had no blood pressure issues, no acne, wasn't lethargic, and my libido was perfect during the cycle and off it.
    That's the beauty of andro series products, they maye expensive but you'd spend a lot on puppets for the harsher PHs
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  12. For my PCT would you recommend fenugreek, PES Erase Pro,Nolvadren-XT, and/or PES anabeta and cycle armour?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by srb2112
    For my PCT would you recommend fenugreek, PES Erase Pro,Nolvadren-XT, and/or PES anabeta and cycle armour?
    Are you using a methyl or not? If you are you need to throw in a serm. Keep pct simple, get some intimidate, erase, and you could even throw in anabeta ( I am and thoroughly loving it). Don't forget nolva, clomid, or torem.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  14. Are the side affects reversible?

  15. What's otc? Over the counter?

  16. Are these all safe with no side affects?

  17. How about hair loss and testicles? No change?

  18. No hair thinning or loss and no teste change?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Icandoanythin
    No hair thinning or loss and no teste change?
    you need to research instead of posting question after question. use google. search the boards here.

    depends on the side affect if its reversible or not

    and nothing is 100% safe, that's why you research before you put something in your body
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  20. Thats what im doing, research.
    Google is full of all kinds of contradictory information . I need proof from people who have done it
    And what do you mean depends on the side affects? Thanks
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