Saw this on another forum (my apologies if this is bad forum etiquette or something) but I was curious what anyone over here had to say about this guys statements.
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This stuff cracks me up. So now the argument is not that ostarine is not suppressive during PCT, just that it's not 'too' suppressive, and SERMS will overwhelm the effect. Well ****, if that's the new logic, why not just run a low dose of a PH throughout PCT?
Since we know Ostarine is supressive (from the bloodwork all over the net, and the original phase I trials), and clearly so at 25 mg, making suggestions like 'well, just start at 25, then taper down bro', as the 'article' (*cough* adcopy *cough) above does, is the same logic as saying 'well, just start epistane at 40mg a day, then taper down bro'.
Assuming everyone can see that the PH tapering plan is not a good one, get it through your heads, the ostarine plan is no different. The only people trying to tell you it is not suppressive are trying to sell it to you, or convince themselves that what they are doing is a good idea. Ostarine has it's place and its virtues - comparable to a mild PH cycle with reduced liver/lipid impact. That makes is useful in some specific situations (eg bridging into a PH cycle). Now that we've seen enough bloodwork to judge (see the long thread in PA's section), it has no more place in PCT than a low dose PH would.
I would recommend:
a) solo + a conservative PCT (eg clomid 25/12.5/12.5 + low dose AI)
b) stacked with one or more mild non-methylated PH for a liver friendly cycle with low sides (eg osta 12.5mg + 600mg stano + 1ml mg trenazone) - this could be useful for those who are prone to sides, for example someone who has mild hypertension to start with
c) use it to bridge into a 'standard' PH cycle -to allow for a longer cycle that would be on the whole, less damaging (aside from shutdown) than an equal length PH cycle. That is to say, I would expect 4 weeks of ostarine bridged into 6 weeks of mechabol or 4 weeks of superdrol (with one week overlap) to be easier on the liver and lipids than 9 weeks of mechabol or 7 weeks of superdrol alone. This is the use that most interests me.
Plenty of interesting ways to use this, but since something to use during PCT is the 'magic bullet' of this industry, the people making it are gonna keep trying to shoehorn it into that application, regardless of evidence. Don't get me wrong, I would love for it (or something else) to come along that will work in PCT, but I don't see any reason to believe this is it.
FWIW, my current PCT protocol after a very suppressive cycle is clomid+nolva+daa on the hormonal side, creatine + beta alanine + citrulline malate + betaine + ursolic acid + licogenix + a few other misc things. So I'm not against pulling out all the stops to hold onto gains.
