Transdermal 1, 4 diol?

[PastorofMuppets]

Seems like I haven't read much about this.

Is this a viable product, and if so, is it cost effective?

Obviously m1,4 is targeted at those who are looking at the conversion to dbol, but what if one is looking for the different eq type properties that this product provides?

Anyone have experience with this?

 

[dego]

Seems like I haven't read much about this.

Is this a viable product, and if so, is it cost effective?

Obviously m1,4 is targeted at those who are looking at the conversion to dbol, but what if one is looking for the different eq type properties that this product provides?

Anyone have experience with this?

wait for 1,4ADD cyp

 

[SJA]

wait for 1,4ADD cyp

Maybe he doesn't want to pin it. I haven't heard any feedback on using this TD either.....time to search :type:

Edit: 1,4ADD transdermal info

 

[lancelot]

Is this a viable product, and if so, is it cost effective?

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Depends on how much money you have or willing to spend. 1G/day is what you need with 1,4Diol, so do the math.

 

[meathead1987]

It has 45% oral availability. Only ~40% dermally.

 

[PastorofMuppets]

Ah thanks, looks like I'll be waiting for the injectable.

 

[mauibuilt]

I think the transdermal idea is great if stacking with an oral. I will be doing a transdermal 1,4ad cycle soon stacked with m1t...we'll see if I can handle the lethargy.

 

[rrgg]

DDD liked 1,4ad better as a transdermal. There's not much on this topic, but try these:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21104
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5194
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16559

 

[jmh80]

It's certainly not cost effective. It's $3 a gram, so $3 a day. I'm not even sure EQ costs that much (at least UG EQ).

 

[rrgg]

He didn't really ask about the price. Besides, if you're taking it orally, then Nutraplanet.com is selling 60 caps x 300mg for $35 ("Andropoise 300"). That's $1.94 per gram. If you're taking it transdermally, then maybe that's a different story.

 

[Twin Peak]

It has 45% oral availability. Only ~40% dermally.

These numbers are pulled out of a hat, no one knows the percentage.

The point is well taken, however, in the 1, 4 diol has a relatively high level of oral bioavailability so you would not gain much by taking it dermally.

 

[rrgg]

I don't know the validity of the numbers. For instance, one brand has it written on their labels that 11% of the dose makes it through orally and actually gets converted to boldenone. They say they came to this conclusion through actually testing.

In any case, even if you believe the availability is the same for oral and transdermal, transdermal still has an advantage. You probably a more consistent dosage throughout the day instead of oral blasts 2 or 3 times. Of course you have to pay for the transdermal medium. This is getting a little off-topic though.

 

[MarcusG]

The 11% number is boldenone metabolites in urine which isn't bad at all. And it is actually an average of 7% and 14% in 2 studies I believe.