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Intermittent fasting on a cutting cycle?

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    Originally Posted by Syringe

    If anything juice is a lot more important when cutting. Why would anyone gear to bulk and cut with nothing?

    Seems like a great way to wither away to nothing.

    And op....IF is a neat way to get ripped on. And you can use any steroid....what dictates fat loss is your diet. If you bloat easy with certain compounds just go lower with the carbs.
    Agreed! You can use AAS for anti-catabolism while on a calorie deficient diet. Androgen compounds help preserve muscle that was gained during a bulk. My friend is an NPC competitive bodybuilder and when he is preparing for a show he bumps the dosages on his Test-P compared to when he bulks. I know you are talking about SD but still.



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    IF will be torture on cycle if you cant control your hunger. I did it on a test cycle and it worked well.
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    Sorry for the late response guys!


    But yeah I'll check out leangains and give it a go for sure.
    And yeah I've been considering running test in the future as well I just haven't looked into that too much yet. Either way on my next cycle I'm looking to get cut the **** up haha. Or at least drop like 6 or 7% bf, but I know that's probably gonna be tough even with a solid diet in check.

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    Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Says the charismatic stallion that is cutting using test......
    After I bulked for 9 weeks on test.....maybe if you were around to pay attention you would understand that
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    On a recomp or bulk/lean bulk I'd say AAS or PH/DS are best served. With proper diet/protein and natty supplementation I think cutting you don't really need any gear. Just dont starve yourself or train stupid, do it right.

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    Originally Posted by howwedo107

    After I bulked for 9 weeks on test.....maybe if you were around to pay attention you would understand that
    It took you awhile to come up with that response.

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    Originally Posted by Bigchourico

    It took you awhile to come up with that response.
    Sorry I have a life bro and can't always be on cool response tho your the man
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    Originally Posted by howwedo107

    Sorry I have a life bro and can't always be on cool response tho your the man
    Life ,you've been posting non stop for days? And no you're the man/// who dosent practice what he preaches.lol

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    Originally Posted by Bigchourico

    Life ,you've been posting non stop for days? And no you're the man/// who dosent practice what he preaches.lol
    Big difference between a cut and recomp bro I'm recomping not cutting.....lets see your pic bro at your stats you must be umm stacked!!! I'm sure almost no fat either like a boss

    Edit: nvm on the pic just saw 36" waist...ill see enough of them at the fair later
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    Originally Posted by howwedo107

    Big difference between a cut and recomp bro I'm recomping not cutting.....lets see your pic bro at your stats you must be umm stacked!!! I'm sure almost no fat either like a boss

    Edit: nvm on the pic just saw 36" waist...ill enough of them at the fair later
    Lmfao. Ok

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    And that's me in my avatar. Since your so curious!

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    big difference between cut and recomp....you can drop fat and preserve muscle w/o any sort of gear or PH/DS (as I stated with proper diet and training) on a straight up cut....BUT on a recomp you are looking to add muscle/burn fat or "recompose" your body so building muscle, esp in the absence of additional calories some of the days (since you'll be zigzagging calories from maintenance to deficit to surplus), requires some anabolic aid....

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    Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    And that's me in my avatar. Since your so curious!
    your dick? or your whole body?

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    Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    big difference between cut and recomp....you can drop fat and preserve muscle w/o any sort of gear or PH/DS (as I stated with proper diet and training) on a straight up cut....BUT on a recomp you are looking to add muscle/burn fat or "recompose" your body so building muscle, esp in the absence of additional calories some of the days (since you'll be zigzagging calories from maintenance to deficit to surplus), requires some anabolic aid....
    I agree with everything you've said, but I personally feel that steroids can be usefull on a cut. Definitely in my experience it helps me keep most of my lbm.

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    Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    your dick? or your whole body?
    Oh that's just the tip of my dick, Friggen iPhone.lol

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    Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I agree with everything you've said, but I personally feel that steroids can be usefull on a cut. Definitely in my experience it helps me keep most of my lbm.

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    yeah roids can be helpful for ANYTHING and ANYTIME! thats for sure....but you should be taking some time off, and how many of us aren't cutting/recomping or bulking at any given time? we are usually doing one of those three OR doing PCT (not many people just take "off time" where they do nothing specific but eat maintenance and do basic workouts). So during cuts is a good time for me to just use natty supps, gray area stuff (like 7/11), things like that. I don't want to be on this stuff all the time, taking a break is good....plus the natty stuff is pretty effective nowadays.

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    Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Save sd for a bulk...I'm usually against aas for cutting but I understand we all have different goals so I'd go with epi or Hdrol

    i don't understand.

    AAS shine most during a cut.

    it is during this time when AAS fight against physiologically inevitable [protein] catabolism
    For me, the action IS the juice.

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    Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    i don't understand.

    AAS shine most during a cut.

    it is during this time when AAS fight against physiologically inevitable [protein] catabolism
    c'mon now man.....you are telling me you can't stop catabolism via your diet/training and using todays OTC supplementation? I can.

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    Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    c'mon now man.....you are telling me you can't stop catabolism via your diet/training and using todays OTC supplementation? I can.
    AAS is a great way to fight against anti-catabolism. Its all about your goals but what is your anti-catabolism stack if you do not mind me asking. Just asking because I think it would wise to know when you cycle off. It never hurts to learn

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    Originally Posted by VS91588 View Post
    AAS is a great way to fight against anti-catabolism. Its all about your goals but what is your anti-catabolism stack if you do not mind me asking. Just asking because I think it would wise to know when you cycle off. It never hurts to learn
    I use something such as a cortisol control agent (7/11 or reduce XT or PS).....Some sort of test booster and/or test base (say DAA and dermacrine), personally I always use an AI since I always seem to need one, anabeta and/or GDA, BCAA, glutamine peptides, keep protein intake above 1 gram per lb BW, high fats, all things you would do in PCT for instance....they can be used when cutting as well. If you are not being stupid and training wrong, causing all sorts of damage that your caloric intake can't repair (as in training like you are bulking)....and you're not skimping on the protein/aminos....I just don't see why you are going to catabolize any muscle even if you don't use any supps. If your diet and training are in check, you will be fine....there is no need to rely on AAS as a crutch when you can achieve the same thing by knowing what to do with your nutrition and training (and supplementation). There are TONS of effective OTC supplements out there today.

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