Intermittent fasting on a cutting cycle?

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  1. And that's me in my avatar. Since your so curious!


  2. big difference between cut and recomp....you can drop fat and preserve muscle w/o any sort of gear or PH/DS (as I stated with proper diet and training) on a straight up cut....BUT on a recomp you are looking to add muscle/burn fat or "recompose" your body so building muscle, esp in the absence of additional calories some of the days (since you'll be zigzagging calories from maintenance to deficit to surplus), requires some anabolic aid....
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    And that's me in my avatar. Since your so curious!
    your dick? or your whole body?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    big difference between cut and recomp....you can drop fat and preserve muscle w/o any sort of gear or PH/DS (as I stated with proper diet and training) on a straight up cut....BUT on a recomp you are looking to add muscle/burn fat or "recompose" your body so building muscle, esp in the absence of additional calories some of the days (since you'll be zigzagging calories from maintenance to deficit to surplus), requires some anabolic aid....
    I agree with everything you've said, but I personally feel that steroids can be usefull on a cut. Definitely in my experience it helps me keep most of my lbm.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    your dick? or your whole body?
    Oh that's just the tip of my dick, Friggen iPhone.lol
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I agree with everything you've said, but I personally feel that steroids can be usefull on a cut. Definitely in my experience it helps me keep most of my lbm.

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    yeah roids can be helpful for ANYTHING and ANYTIME! thats for sure....but you should be taking some time off, and how many of us aren't cutting/recomping or bulking at any given time? we are usually doing one of those three OR doing PCT (not many people just take "off time" where they do nothing specific but eat maintenance and do basic workouts). So during cuts is a good time for me to just use natty supps, gray area stuff (like 7/11), things like that. I don't want to be on this stuff all the time, taking a break is good....plus the natty stuff is pretty effective nowadays.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Save sd for a bulk...I'm usually against aas for cutting but I understand we all have different goals so I'd go with epi or Hdrol

    i don't understand.

    AAS shine most during a cut.

    it is during this time when AAS fight against physiologically inevitable [protein] catabolism
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    i don't understand.

    AAS shine most during a cut.

    it is during this time when AAS fight against physiologically inevitable [protein] catabolism
    c'mon now man.....you are telling me you can't stop catabolism via your diet/training and using todays OTC supplementation? I can.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    c'mon now man.....you are telling me you can't stop catabolism via your diet/training and using todays OTC supplementation? I can.
    AAS is a great way to fight against anti-catabolism. Its all about your goals but what is your anti-catabolism stack if you do not mind me asking. Just asking because I think it would wise to know when you cycle off. It never hurts to learn

  10. Quote Originally Posted by VS91588 View Post
    AAS is a great way to fight against anti-catabolism. Its all about your goals but what is your anti-catabolism stack if you do not mind me asking. Just asking because I think it would wise to know when you cycle off. It never hurts to learn
    I use something such as a cortisol control agent (7/11 or reduce XT or PS).....Some sort of test booster and/or test base (say DAA and dermacrine), personally I always use an AI since I always seem to need one, anabeta and/or GDA, BCAA, glutamine peptides, keep protein intake above 1 gram per lb BW, high fats, all things you would do in PCT for instance....they can be used when cutting as well. If you are not being stupid and training wrong, causing all sorts of damage that your caloric intake can't repair (as in training like you are bulking)....and you're not skimping on the protein/aminos....I just don't see why you are going to catabolize any muscle even if you don't use any supps. If your diet and training are in check, you will be fine....there is no need to rely on AAS as a crutch when you can achieve the same thing by knowing what to do with your nutrition and training (and supplementation). There are TONS of effective OTC supplements out there today.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    yeah roids can be helpful for ANYTHING and ANYTIME! thats for sure....but you should be taking some time off, and how many of us aren't cutting/recomping or bulking at any given time? we are usually doing one of those three OR doing PCT (not many people just take "off time" where they do nothing specific but eat maintenance and do basic workouts). So during cuts is a good time for me to just use natty supps, gray area stuff (like 7/11), things like that. I don't want to be on this stuff all the time, taking a break is good....plus the natty stuff is pretty effective nowadays.
    Spoken from the guy who advocates using Andromass year round

  12. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Spoken from the guy who advocates using Andromass year round
    haha, at this point i am actually speaking out of both sides of my mouth....I just started TRT a month and a half ago, so technically I am "on" all year round....but I practiced what I preach before the TRT, so most of what I say is from the non-TRT guy I was for 99.9% of my life. I will say this, to each their own....if you don't mind being on something while cutting/recomping/bulking (much of the year)? and got the cash? and are willing to buy support supps? then by all means cut with gear and/or PH/DS....hell, I used 3-400mg of test once to rip off a bunch of fat I had accumulated while being sedentary from a health issue for 6 months. fastest most effective cut of my life ....but i usually choose to go the natty route for my cuts...for the reasons I explained before....

  13. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    c'mon now man.....you are telling me you can't stop catabolism via your diet/training and using todays OTC supplementation? I can.

    Catabolism is merely the breaking down of polymers into monomers. It is a necessity . it will happen, and it does happen. through hormonal manipulation or very slow weight loss, you can control what % of protein is broken down, but ultimately, some will. It is biologically impossible to not catabolize protein to some extent, however minute, during a cut ( or calorie deficit significant enough to induce speedy weightloss).
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    Catabolism is merely the breaking down of polymers into monomers. It is a necessity . it will happen, and it does happen. through hormonal manipulation or very slow weight loss, you can control what % of protein is broken down, but ultimately, some will. It is biologically impossible to not catabolize protein to some extent, however minute, during a cut ( or calorie deficit significant enough to induce speedy weightloss).
    true, but you can keep it to a minimum by having everything within your control spot on (training, nutrition, rest etc).....anabolics can only help with catabolism, but just saying that you gotta take some time off from AAS and PH/DS (or at least I like to)....so for me cutting is the best time to do so. I really feel gear is best suited for recomps or bulks (any time you want to build muscle)....but like i said last post, I've used test or PH/DS to cut before, just not nearly as much as on recomp or bulk.

  15. Gaining or losing "weight" is relatively easy. Anabolics allow you to gain more lbm than fat and conversely allow you to lose more fat than lbm -- assuming diet and training are adjusted accordingly for either goal.

  16. I would not jump into IF if you have never tried it, chances are you will fail hard i think. 2nd yes you should use a ph to cut so you can preserve muscle. 3rd its all about diet, you can bulk or cut on IF.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by SDking
    I would not jump into IF if you have never tried it, chances are you will fail hard i think. 2nd yes you should use a ph to cut so you can preserve muscle. 3rd its all about diet, you can bulk or cut on IF.
    Straight to the point haha thanks man. I plan on trying IF in short increments first and moving up until I feel like I have it down before going full on into it.

  18. I'm currently recomping on SD no problem.
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