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    First cycle questions


    Ok, So I'm a total n00b to the PH stuff. But I am thinking about starting to acquire the stuff to do my first cycle. I will probably just buy a little at a time until I get everything (Dat college budget). I'm thinking about doing a H-Drol cycle for my first.

    Will be using Halo-Plex, found it for a good price.

    Dosing at 50/50/75/75/75/75
    AI Cycle Support

    Then PCT:
    DAA
    Compound 20
    Is this enough for PCT?
    Is that sufficient? Should I dose a little lower as it's my first cycle?

    Thinking about a mini sdrol cycle next spring. Getting some with the halo-plex as I found it cheap.

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    Hey man I think your cycle looks pretty good, but what are your stats and your goals for this cycle?

    And the one thing I would change is add a SERM to your pct.

    Besides that though it looks pretty good to me.
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    22 lifting since 14/15 with breaks. Used to be 305 and 30%+ BF, now 170-ish at 12%. Looking to add some mass and thinking about doing a Physique comp or 2 next year to get my feet wet/see if I want to compete.
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    Might want to add an ai to the pct, definitely add a serm.
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    Nolva or Clomid plz
    Preload Hawthorne berry or celery seed extract
    Take cycle support and pick up a 80 cent bottle of liv52 on amazon
    look into erase as well
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    As stated no serm no cycle. Run Erase pct with your daa. Everything else looks good but you should have a SERM in hand ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenGarcia View Post
    Nolva or Clomid plz
    Preload Hawthorne berry or celery seed extract
    Take cycle support and pick up a 80 cent bottle of liv52 on amazon
    look into erase as well
    Ok, awesome thank you. Preload the hawthorn berry before cycle? And do I need to take it during the cycle as well? Erase is for PCT correct? How do I dose the SERM?

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    As stated no serm no cycle. Run Erase pct with your daa. Everything else looks good but you should have a SERM in hand ready.
    That's the part I was unsure on, Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullrider_il

    Ok, awesome thank you. Preload the hawthorn berry before cycle? And do I need to take it during the cycle as well? Erase is for PCT correct? How do I dose the SERM?

    That's the part I was unsure on, Thanks!
    Yes continue the hawthorn berry throughout cycle. And yeah erase is for pct and dose the SERM 20/20/10/10 if its nolva, I'm not real sure about clomid dosing since I've never used clomid before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullrider_il

    Ok, awesome thank you. Preload the hawthorn berry before cycle? And do I need to take it during the cycle as well? Erase is for PCT correct? How do I dose the SERM?
    Yeah 1-2 weeks before, probably 1 will be just fine. And keep it going throughout.
    Erase or Erase pro is for pct and if you are dosing Nolva I would do it like this.

    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    Erase 0/0/3/3/3/3/ or if its erase pro 0/0/1/1/1/1
    DAA 3/3/3/3
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    Awesome thanks for the help everyone.

    If I do SD in the future would protocol be basically the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullrider_il
    Awesome thanks for the help everyone.

    If I do SD in the future would protocol be basically the same?
    It would be pretty similar but I know a lot of people use higher doses for their SERM during pct

    For instance doing nolva at 40/40/20/20 instead of 20/20/10/10.

    And then one other thing is sd is more toxic(clearly) so you would probably want to look into more liver care stuff.

    I know for me though running both sd and epi together I've hardly noticed any side effects at all.. Granted I haven't had any blood work done to prove nothing negative is happening.
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