Androgens/new wave of DHEA PH's on a test cycle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by technique88

    How would running AH at 3 caps do during a tren cycle? To serve as just a base and not really looking for gains from the AH.
    Read HTS comment about tren and mast.

    Androhard obviously wouldn't have as MUCH an effect as the injectable masteron but it would be the same idea.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    What type of sides can come from low DHT? I had my DHT levels checked and they were off the charts low--a few months back.
    High estrogen, Low Libido, overall lack of feeling manly... Strength and recovery may also suffer... My skin also looks better and I feel like I am thinking more clearly.

    Either get yourself a bottle of Androhard if you've got the cash, or LGI Stano-200 if you just want to "test the waters"... I am very interested in Androhard now, but I've still got a bottle and a half of Stano-200. Either way, I just had the most motivated workout I've had in recent memory.

    This stuff may be weak for some, but if you're on the Low side or already shut down, this stuff kicks ass in the "feel good" department.

    Edit* You'll also shed any extra water you're holding onto, which for me was an alarming 4-5lbs! This was coming directly off of 2 pills of Erase per day... I pissed like a race horse for 3 days, yet I was clearly not dehydrated.
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  3. im running masteron and stano out of this world sick
    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr View Post
    High estrogen, Low Libido, overall lack of feeling manly... Strength and recovery may also suffer... My skin also looks better and I feel like I am thinking more clearly.

    Either get yourself a bottle of Androhard if you've got the cash, or LGI Stano-200 if you just want to "test the waters"... I am very interested in Androhard now, but I've still got a bottle and a half of Stano-200. Either way, I just had the most motivated workout I've had in recent memory.

    This stuff may be weak for some, but if you're on the Low side or already shut down, this stuff kicks ass in the "feel good" department.

    Edit* You'll also shed any extra water you're holding onto, which for me was an alarming 4-5lbs! This was coming directly off of 2 pills of Erase per day... I pissed like a race horse for 3 days, yet I was clearly not dehydrated.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr


    Edit* You'll also shed any extra water you're holding onto, which for me was an alarming 4-5lbs! This was coming directly off of 2 pills of Erase per day... I pissed like a race horse for 3 days, yet I was clearly not dehydrated.
    I had this happen as well ...pissing like i took a diuretic .....but it was from hopping on lower dose AHv3 lol

  5. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I had this happen as well ...pissing like i took a diuretic .....but it was from hopping on lower dose AHv3 lol
    What do you think about 3 caps of AHv3 a day during a tren cycle?
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr View Post
    High estrogen, Low Libido, overall lack of feeling manly... Strength and recovery may also suffer... My skin also looks better and I feel like I am thinking more clearly.

    Either get yourself a bottle of Androhard if you've got the cash, or LGI Stano-200 if you just want to "test the waters"... I am very interested in Androhard now, but I've still got a bottle and a half of Stano-200. Either way, I just had the most motivated workout I've had in recent memory.

    This stuff may be weak for some, but if you're on the Low side or already shut down, this stuff kicks ass in the "feel good" department.

    Edit* You'll also shed any extra water you're holding onto, which for me was an alarming 4-5lbs! This was coming directly off of 2 pills of Erase per day... I pissed like a race horse for 3 days, yet I was clearly not dehydrated.
    How suppressive is stano? If run solo, what kind of pct would be needed?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by hyperCat

    How suppressive is stano? If run solo, what kind of pct would be needed?
    If ran high like 1g to 1.2g which is how high or should be ran I would play it safe and maybe run a low dosed serm with a test booster and light AI in there. Doesn't hurt to be safe
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    What do you think about 3 caps of AHv3 a day during a tren cycle?
    I'm actually the guy who runs it 3-4 caps usually , they are pretty potent, double the dosage of the v2...so 3-4 caps is a nice amount of DHTism . You cutting dosage back for cost concerns? that is usually the case....

  9. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    If ran high like 1g to 1.2g which is how high or should be ran I would play it safe and maybe run a low dosed serm with a test booster and light AI in there. Doesn't hurt to be safe
    If it were JUST stano or AHv3 I'd venture to say OTC PCT (like Erase pro plus test booster etc) is fine...but as you know we are not supposed to suggest this protocol .....EVER....even for natty cycles

  10. Quote Originally Posted by hyperCat View Post
    How suppressive is stano? If run solo, what kind of pct would be needed?
    I just don't see it being worth the money to run it solo unless your DHT levels are low. Im letting it load up just to see what it does, and then I'll start my SD cycle.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I'm actually the guy who runs it 3-4 caps usually , they are pretty potent, double the dosage of the v2...so 3-4 caps is a nice amount of DHTism . You cutting dosage back for cost concerns? that is usually the case....
    Mainly for cost. My girl friend is buying me a cycle for our anniversary and I'm trying to construct it within her budget ?
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    Mainly for cost. My girl friend is buying me a cycle for our anniversary and I'm trying to construct it within her budget ?
    you'll be fine with 3-4 per day. save the woman some money

  13. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    you'll be fine with 3-4 per day. save the woman some money
    Lol she would appreciate it lol. She has a lot of tren and test to purchase lol.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    Lol she would appreciate it lol. She has a lot of tren and test to purchase lol.
    don't get her arrested now, that stuff is like buying crack nowadays LOL

  15. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    How would running AH at 3 caps do during a tren cycle? To serve as just a base and not really looking for gains from the AH.
    It would work perfect for just that, keep libido up, stave off any possible gyno threat, help with mood etc. 3 caps will last you 8 weeks as well and hit me or HTS up and we'll get you the 25% off


  16. Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr View Post
    I just don't see it being worth the money to run it solo unless your DHT levels are low. Im letting it load up just to see what it does, and then I'll start my SD cycle.
    I guess it depends on your goals and money situation but at 9 caps of AH a day strength increases are insane. As well as a scary libido...


  17. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    What do you think about 3 caps of AHv3 a day during a tren cycle?
    I would personally go higher. If you are looking to duplicate the idea of a mast/tren type cycle, go decent dose with the Hard. But if budget is an absolute, than 3 would do.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Jesus Cripes!!!! AndroFactory just put up a logging opp for Bulk Up lmao.
    God I hate those guys!!!!!!!!
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    *Sigh*
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by technique88

    I took the new Androlean on my test cycle and really loved it! It helped reduce bloat, trimmed my mid section down, really helped Lean me out and vascularity was freaky. Naturally I'm not a very vascularr looking person.

    I am considering AH for a up coming tren ace cycle but we will see, trying to keep costs low.
    Good to hear on the AL.
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  22. got a deal and Ran androhard 8 weeks while on 13 weeks test e and worked great as AI, not very cost effective at all and honestly didn't see major changes... I love primordial and use trs every pct, but the andro series is a bit too expensive for my blood. Maybe my expectations were too high since I was already running the real deal....
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by pillsRgood
    got a deal and Ran androhard 8 weeks while on 13 weeks test e and worked great as AI, not very cost effective at all and honestly didn't see major changes... I love primordial and use trs every pct, but the andro series is a bit too expensive for my blood. Maybe my expectations were too high since I was already running the real deal....
    I see that forerunner labs alpha mass is supposed be similar to andro mass. People seem to respond well to andro mass their first go round , so I'm hoping for good results

    For cost effective purposes, I couldn't pass up alpha mass. I was able to pick up two bottles for less than 60 bucks, compared to what would've been AT LEAST 300 for andromass.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    I see that forerunner labs alpha mass is supposed be similar to andro mass. People seem to respond well to andro mass their first go round , so I'm hoping for good results

    For cost effective purposes, I couldn't pass up alpha mass. I was able to pick up two bottles for less than 60 bucks, compared to what would've been AT LEAST 300 for andromass.
    They aren't the same regardless of what is said. AndroMass contains more than twice the amount of hormones and also combines two not one. Reflection in cost is based off the difference in hormone amounts


  25. Quote Originally Posted by pillsRgood View Post
    got a deal and Ran androhard 8 weeks while on 13 weeks test e and worked great as AI, not very cost effective at all and honestly didn't see major changes... I love primordial and use trs every pct, but the andro series is a bit too expensive for my blood. Maybe my expectations were too high since I was already running the real deal....
    The benefit in that addition is adding in an additional androgen as opposed to an AI. I do hope we can bring the prices down eventually, I keep hearing it is being worked on at PP, but there are alot of factors that have to be improved upon to get price down.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    They aren't the same regardless of what is said. AndroMass contains more than twice the amount of hormones and also combines two not one. Reflection in cost is based off the difference in hormone amounts
    Thanks for clearing that up. I honestly wasn't aware of the difference in dosage. People seem to really enjoy the Andromass. It's just unfortunate it's out of reach for so many due to price.

    However, like HTS mentioned, theres nothing any of you reps can do and there is reason for the additional cost. The safety of both PP and FL products is worth additional cost....

  27. HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

    Test E - Weeks 1-14
    Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
    SD - Weeks 1-4
    MENT - Weeks 1-4
    AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
    AL - Weeks 12-16

    If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by akaVeritaS View Post
    HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

    Test E - Weeks 1-14
    Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
    SD - Weeks 1-4
    MENT - Weeks 1-4
    AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
    AL - Weeks 12-16

    If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
    I like it although I would drop the SD or Ment, when it comes to orals (17aa) I stick with one even with longer cycles, what is the reasoning for both? The AL at the end I would throw it in at week 10, 4 weeks just isn't long enough imo.


  29. Quote Originally Posted by lboston

    Thanks for clearing that up. I honestly wasn't aware of the difference in dosage. People seem to really enjoy the Andromass. It's just unfortunate it's out of reach for so many due to price.

    However, like HTS mentioned, theres nothing any of you reps can do and there is reason for the additional cost. The safety of both PP and FL products is worth additional cost....
    This is wrong, unless you are comparing AndroMass v2. AlphaMass is 1-dhea whereas AndroMass v3 is 4-dhea and epiandrosterone (rb-dhea)

  30. run test 250 a week 1-14
    tren a 4-10
    masteron 6-14
    and epi 1-4
    stanodrol 4-8
    thats what im running without the test
    Quote Originally Posted by akaVeritaS View Post
    HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

    Test E - Weeks 1-14
    Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
    SD - Weeks 1-4
    MENT - Weeks 1-4
    AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
    AL - Weeks 12-16

    If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
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