Planning an HDrol run, need advice on how much to get

uvawahoowa

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So I'm eyeing my first ph run starting probably sometime in mid January. I've done a good deal of research, but I want to plan out what exactly I need to buy so I can set aside the $$ and make sure I have everything far in advance of my start date. Planning:

Pre Load (2 weeks):
CEL Cycle Assist

Cycle:
Helladrol (50/75/75/75/100/100)
Cycle Assist
Taurine 8g/day
Liv 52

PCT:
Erase Pro (3/3/2/1)
DAA => (3/3/3/3)
Clomid (50/50/25/25)
PCT Assist => Run for 4 weeks
Cycle Assist => Run for 4 weeks

Taken throughout:
Creatine
Fish Oil 10g/day
Whey
Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM
Bulk Cissus

Questions:
Dosing on clomid ok?
Should I preload liv 52, or is taking it on cycle good?
Do I need extra hawthorne berry during pre load, or is the extract in cycle assist enough?
If I take Cycle and PCT Assist per dosing instructions, I should need 3 bottles cycle assist and 1 bottle pct assist?
Anything I'm missing or have wrong?
Would running DAA for 8 weeks be appropriate? Or should I stop after 4?
Is there something I should run for extra cortisol control or is the erase enough?
 
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looks pretty good
first PH cycle should be kept at 5weeks and probably no higher than 75mg .
50/50/75/75/75
clomid should be dosed high for the first few days or week 150/100/50/50/50
 

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looks pretty good
first PH cycle should be kept at 5weeks and probably no higher than 75mg .
50/50/75/75/75
clomid should be dosed high for the first few days or week 150/100/50/50/50
So pct should be 5 weeks for a 5 week cycle? I have seen most logs run 4 week pct for a 6 week cycle. I just figured 4 week pct was the typical length for a mild PH
 
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generally I go 5 weeks with a serm, I use an AI also.. test booster etc
you can go 4 weeks pct for a 4 weeker thats totally cool
 

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your erase pro dosing is for og erase, not pro. dosing erase pro like that will kill your estrogen. get og erase and do 0/0/3/3/2/1 or 1/2/3/3/2/1

and cort control really isnt needed for hdrol too much becauseof how mild it is. daa is fine for 4 weeks

good job on doing homework
 

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your erase pro dosing is for og erase, not pro. dosing erase pro like that will kill your estrogen. get og erase and do 0/0/3/3/2/1 or 1/2/3/3/2/1

and cort control really isnt needed for hdrol too much becauseof how mild it is. daa is fine for 4 weeks

good job on doing homework
Oops yes I meant erase not erase pro

Is there anything specific I should do after pct or am I good to run pretty much anything natty?
 
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So pct should be 5 weeks for a 5 week cycle? I have seen most logs run 4 week pct for a 6 week cycle. I just figured 4 week pct was the typical length for a mild PH
I personally think you should run your hdrol at 6 weeks. I didn't feel mine 'kick in' until the start of week 3....
4 week pct is ok, but 5 weeks is even better.
 

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I personally think you should run your hdrol at 6 weeks. I didn't feel mine 'kick in' until the start of week 3....
4 week pct is ok, but 5 weeks is even better.
I hear the same thing about it kicking in better the later it goes on.

What about tudca? How would that fit into a cycle? Does that take the place of the liv52?
 

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I hear the same thing about it kicking in better the later it goes on.

What about tudca? How would that fit into a cycle? Does that take the place of the liv52?
pretty much. but remember, hdrol is really mild. stacking all sorts of liver sups for it is like trying to swat a fly with a hammer, ,it scompletely overkill. as long as you arnt drinking alcohol on cycle, youre almost guaranteed to be fine. im not saying do buy any liver sps, just domt overthik it too much, not like youre gonna be dosing over 100 anyways
 

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