YoungsterZ Epi Log! EPISTANE
- 09-25-2012, 12:49 PM
- 09-25-2012, 12:49 PM
- 09-25-2012, 12:55 PM
@fightclub2012 not anything significant, a couple pounds
@blayke88 only problem with egg whites that I hate is how much gas it gives me lol...this epi already has me gassy enough o_O
09-25-2012, 01:19 PM
09-25-2012, 04:21 PM
hmmmm... surprises me that it hasn't kicked into full gear. anyways great to see youre staying consistent! i can't wait to start but im waiting till winter hits since i'll be working much less and i can really focus on my diet. winter time is mass season.
09-25-2012, 04:26 PM
It's very possible I need a higher dose, idk though. Either way I'm staying at 40 another week. I'm only two weeks in, so it's not a surprise to me that I'm just barely making gainsOriginally Posted by jasonk202
09-25-2012, 08:46 PM
Man I don't know WTF is up, but the last couple days my stomach has been nonstop churning and rumbling. I feel like I have to **** almost every hour, so I go to the bathroom and it ends up being just a huge pocket of gas.... Sorry for the image lol but I need some advice :\
09-25-2012, 09:08 PM
My advice would be to buy some milk of mag or take stool softners to clean out your system, you feel much better, your body is trying to tell you something ha
09-25-2012, 09:13 PM
Whats milk of mag? And all stool softeners do really is help with constipation(which is far from the problem) hahaOriginally Posted by blayke88
09-25-2012, 09:16 PM
09-25-2012, 09:21 PM
09-25-2012, 09:27 PM
09-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Cool, guess we'll see how it goes. Just looked into it and it sounds legit. Headed to the store, fingers crossed
09-25-2012, 09:52 PM
holy$**t LOL, u might be way over your supplement threshold, if that makes sense.. from my 'experience' sometimes all the support supps and protein shakes will upset my stomach, to much for your body to process/digest.Originally Posted by Red9
09-25-2012, 10:31 PM
I'm thinking that I possibly have had a small flu bug. My girlfriend got the flu four days ago, the day before I started having this diarrea and stomach problem...and would also explain the feeling of sickness in the mornings not feeling like I could eat much...idk just thoughts
09-25-2012, 10:38 PM
I might try taking all my supports like glucosamine, hawthorn, ubuiquinol, and Liv.52 at night. Only thing that will stay the same is the cycle support I take with my shake in a.m. and my multivitamin with first meal plus omegas and pantothenic acid that get taken 3x a day spread out.
09-25-2012, 11:43 PM
Well anyways, thought I'd post my workout for today. Strength is definitely increasing and I'm happy with the way things are going. Only negative thing right now is my stomach issues which really blow. Literally.. Ha. And experiencing lethargy where I just wanna sit or rest all day. DHEA is not something I will even consider using, for obvious reasons to myself: hairloss which is already an issue on dads side, and the fact that I'm taking a plenty big load of supps already. So to hell with dhea, I'll tough out the laziness and push through. Going to try taking most my supports at nighttime instead of morning see if anything changes. Possibly just having the gas and stomach problems from a flu bug? Something I ate? Time will tell, patience is key.
-Crunches- 2 sets of 25
-Lat pulldown- 105x10, 120x10, 135x8, 165x5
-Deadlift- 175x8, 205x8, 245x8, 275x4 failure
-Tbar rows- 70x12, 90x10, 115x10
-Preacher curl- 65x12, 85x8, 85x6
Didn't have a ton of time at gym so I had to cut a few things out, but I made sure I got in what I felt was most crucial. Deadlifts are definitely improving for me! Gotta get it in!
09-26-2012, 08:35 AM
Yeah bro the lethargy is hitting me the most. One thing that sucks about being on a cycle is popping pills all day long lol sometimes I wonder if it's safe to be downing all these pills all day. The weight gain I mentioned earlier this week seems to be still with me although I don't see much but I feel harder and slightly bigger. Also try to eat a big ass salad or a couple of apples here and there. Will clear your stomach up so ur gas doesn't smell like something died inside ur ass
09-26-2012, 12:07 PM
told ya bro, constant constipation. I am up to 60mg for my last week of my havoc run. last 3 days will go up to 70mg.
09-26-2012, 02:01 PM
Last night I tried something. I took the milk of magnesia around 7, and I was on the toilet by 10. Everything in my stomach literally just liquified out of me along with huge pockets of air. It was far from enjoyable to say the least. I decided not to eat anything whatsoever for the rest of the night, and didn't take my nightly casein shake either. Just to make sure I had a fresh start and a clean stomach. I am going to eliminate my morning whey shake and replace it with more whole foods and put a bit more greens into my diet. AND TAKING MY EPI WITH FOOD NOW INSTEAD OF BETWEEN MEALS OR EMPTY STOMACH. I'm hoping that I can finish this cycle strong and fight off these issues...
09-26-2012, 02:16 PM
09-26-2012, 02:23 PM
I hope so too man, it sucks not feeling a hundred percent just because of an upset stomach. Everything else is awesome. No other side effects besides lethargyOriginally Posted by fightclub2012
09-27-2012, 03:55 AM
LEG DAY GENTLEMEN! I hit a PR on leg press, and felt very good about my squats Working on getting that prefect 90° angle, I'm at about 85 and want to improve. I finished my workout with fuel to burn, and wanted to stay longer. My back muscles look more defined and a little bigger also. The thickness of my legs is increasing too slowly but surely
-Standing calf raises warmup- 20x, 20x
-Leg press- 195x10, 285x8, 335x8, 355x3
-Squats- 145x10, 175x8, 205x5, 225x3
-Seated Leg curl- 50x12, 70x10, 90x8
-Hip abduction- 70x14, 70x12
-Calf machine- 110x14, 130x14
On a side note, I'm changing a couple plans. I am going to lower my protein amount each day down to between 210 & 230 and raise calories a couple hundred. So calories will be about 3,500 hopefully. As for my stomach issues, I think things are looking up. I'm adding a little more fruit, taking away my morning whey shake which will allow for more room for whole foods and will hopefully keep my stomach at ease. And now taking my Epistane with meals, and still timing them evenly spread throughout the day.
Thumbs up for gains in this thang!
09-28-2012, 04:50 AM
Rest/off day. Had a great day for the most part. Some personal accomplishments aside from the cycle were made, feeling good. Starting to notice a little moody emotions the last several days. My stomach and diarrea issues have almost completely gone away, so the cycle shall continue anyways, going to a new gym tomorrow with my girlfriend, gunna bomb my chest and triceps real good I'm leaning out nicely too, but stomach possibly bloating. Oh well, pct will take care of that! Night AM
09-28-2012, 06:22 AM
nice progress my man! epi can cause bloat in some people (just like it can cause gyno - despite being advertised as SO anti gyno you can take it for gyno treatment - gotta love the used car salesman pitches in the supplement industry) when you load up on carbs and/or salt, everyone has a unique physiology so people will react differently to the same substance, alot of people recommend increasing your water intake and limiting your salt intake, and try and take your epi on an empty stomach as opposed to with a meal. I personally had the dry gains effect but theres plenty of people who've reported epi acting more like dianabol than winny.
09-28-2012, 12:31 PM
Thanks bro I appreciate it. Yeah I was taking the epi on an empty stomach at first, but began having some serious stomach and diarrea problems. Whether I had a flu bug I was fighting, or just a bad diet for a couple days and ate something my stomach didn't agree with or what, I couldn't tell ya. All I know is that I had to change something and do it fast! Ha. I already keep sodium really low, but it's possible I could up my water. We shall see my friendsOriginally Posted by SkubaSteve89
09-29-2012, 01:43 AM
09-29-2012, 01:49 AM
Haha thanks big dawg, kinda had me worried but with a lil tweaking of the diet and a couple changes I'm gtg!Originally Posted by blayke88
09-29-2012, 05:20 AM
Today was chest shoulders and tricep day. Didn't quite hit it as hard as I planned, ended up talking to a wrestling coach who wants to give me a chance on the mat at a somewhat local MMA gym to fight.
Way tired so not going to log my workout till tomorrow, but I am feeling a lot better with the small tweaks I made to my routine and diet. Definitely going up to 50mg next week if things don't get moving a little stronger. Felt weaker than usual at the gym today... Idk what was up, just wasn't feelin it..
10-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Haven't logged for a few days now guys. Had some personal issues going on and an F-ed up last couple days. With that being said, I am going to try and log each day like I was before. I have 3 weeks left, and I am going to ride it at 50mg the rest of the way starting tomorrow. Some of the guys on here may not approve but hey, I'm doing this for gains not for kicks. Last couple days my macros were extremely low, and I will be eating like an animal for the remainder of cycle and pct, keeping things somewhat dirtier than they've been. Only negative side effects are dryness in my joints, but tolerable. And aggression is definitely spiked, no doubt. Sweating much more all around. Testicles are probably at half-size of normal, but still able to get an erection just fine. Hair shedding just a little, but everything is all mild and minor.
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