YoungsterZ Epi Log! EPISTANE

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  1. Following, good lucky with the cycle.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by murilode10
    Following, good lucky with the cycle.
    Thanks bro!
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  3. DAY 7:

    MACZ:
    -Calories- 3,320
    -Carbs- 304g
    -Protein- 226g


    -Leg press: 195x10, 195x10, 285x8, 285x8 trying to keep legs on high reps with exception of the squat
    -Squat: 125x8, 175x8, 195x6
    -Seated leg curl machine: 50x20, 70x14

    Okay so plain and simple, I'd consider today a cheat day. I ate pretty dirty for the first time, and my stomach had made a point to let me know it thoroughly hates me Lol...it's been growling nonstop the entire day. I ate dirty which gave me less protein but I was able to get all my calories nonetheless. Never again! Also I didn't have a ton of gym time, so I made sure to just hit squats, leg press and a hamstring exercise. Squats were quite good for me today considering I haven't put up 195 since high school..

  4. Also tomorrow my dosage is.being bumped to 40mg, and I have an order of Liv.52 coming in this week to use on top of my AI Cycle Support just to make sure I am even better off. I don't know whether I will experience harsh side effects because of liver damage or not..but I'd rather be safe instead of sorry and be able to continue on with my cycle. The ol' lady ordered it as a surprise for me actually along with William Llewelyn's Anabolics book...Gotta love her

  5. You have Taurine on hand? In case of back pumps.

    Enhoy food man,have a few cheat meals when u want,it wont kill u.From my understanding anabilics increase protein syntheis,so keep a good diet.Cheat meals wont hurt you man. I dont have cheat days,i have cheat meals as i like.Can actually benefit you.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    You have Taurine on hand? In case of back pumps.

    Enhoy food man,have a few cheat meals when u want,it wont kill u.From my understanding anabilics increase protein syntheis,so keep a good diet.Cheat meals wont hurt you man. I dont have cheat days,i have cheat meals as i like.Can actually benefit you.
    Yeah I do, it's listed with all my other supports on the first page.

    And yes I definitely agree with that, my stomach was just pissed off all day and I was ....well...extra gassy haha ha

  7. Just to give Jay a hard time and anybody else, if you need reference for what supports I have for this cycle, they are all listed on the first page on the very first post for this thread. I WILL let you guys know if I start using anything else, like I already have. Such as: AI's 3Z, Liv.52 by Himalaya.

    Now I'm back to sleep for a couple more hours..only got 6 hours so far

  8. DAY 8: Well I know I said I was gonna bump to 40mg today, but I think I made the right choice NOT to. I wanna listen to my body and not push things negatively. I stayed at 30mg for a few obvious reasons, being:
    a.) I have felt like straight ass the last few mornings and lazy as heck because I haven't had good sleep these last few days...mainly due to my job.
    b.) I want to protect my liver better so I was waiting to see when my Liv.52 would be here..and I know now; Saturday. And I didn't want to escalate the dose until I knew when I'd have my extra support
    c.) Wanted to wait till I got a night of good sleep with my 3z which arrived today!

    So that being said, the way I feel in the morning will help me make my decision as to bump up or not. I also got a package of more proteins and aminos, plus a bunch of pre-w/o samples to use and bought a 50 serving tub of White Flood to try out(never used it before)

    Today was rest day, and the only side effects I'm feeling is a dull headache the past couple days..and yes I'm very hydrated. Tomorrow is chest day, bout to kill it in tha gym Huhuh, well...that's all folks!

  9. Eat carbs throughout the day. Are you gonna take pre workouts while on epi?

  10. What i do pre workout is, i bought,in bulk:
    -Agmatine
    -Citrulline Malate
    -Taurine
    -LCLT
    -200 mgs of Caffeiene ( i love to add depends on time of day)

    Wanna pick up some b6 soon and add it to the stack.

    Either way workouts are sick

    But imo a great pre workout is Hemavol ive tried it a few times and liked it alot,add some caffeine to the mix and your workouts become even more intense.

    I thnk certain pre workouts while on cycle can only benefit you.. the point of my post

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    What i do pre workout is, i bought,in bulk:
    -Agmatine
    -Citrulline Malate
    -Taurine
    -LCLT
    -200 mgs of Caffeiene ( i love to add depends on time of day)

    Wanna pick up some b6 soon and add it to the stack.

    Either way workouts are sick

    But imo a great pre workout is Hemavol ive tried it a few times and liked it alot,add some caffeine to the mix and your workouts become even more intense.
    nice homemade pwo

  12. Quote Originally Posted by fightclub2012

    nice homemade pwo
    Thnx bro..yeah saves a **** load of money

  13. Quote Originally Posted by cokeholio
    Eat carbs throughout the day. Are you gonna take pre workouts while on epi?
    I try to. Even on most meals theres still a decent amount of carbs, morning or night for me. And we will see..i planned on using one only for pct, but I may use use one on certain days yes, depending on how my blood pressure treats me

  14. Jay, I actually will try that out if I can get the ratios right. It'll be later down the road though, money is a lil tight ATM after buying everything for this cycle and pct and then the two other packages I just ordered.

    And yeah like I said if my BP is in the low range, I don't see why I wouldn't use a pwo on some days

  15. Today is definitely a big difference. Crazy what a good night of sleep can do. Bumpin it to 40!

    Question on your guys opinions, convince me on what Pre-w/o I should use out of what I've got, never used ANY of these:
    -Cellucor C4, Pink lemonade
    -NO Shotgun, Grape bubblegum
    -White flood, Juicy watermelon
    -MuscleTech Nano Vapor, Fruit punch

    Opinions now!

  16. C4 or WFv2

  17. I've only tried a sample nano vapor wasn't a big fan. Have white flood in my pct can't wait to see how that is. And flashover for after that. C4 would be my pick or White flood

  18. APS creatine nitrate, pumps are Sdrol- esque. I stack that with pwo that's priced cheap(on sale) without all the crazy stims

  19. The White flood definitely does smell juicy lol
    Looks like I'm going WF or C4 then boys

  20. Quote Originally Posted by fightclub2012
    APS creatine nitrate, pumps are Sdrol- esque. I stack that with pwo that's priced cheap(on sale) without all the crazy stims
    I'll keep that in mind, thx FC

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Red9
    Jay, I actually will try that out if I can get the ratios right. It'll be later down the road though, money is a lil tight ATM after buying everything for this cycle and pct and then the two other packages I just ordered.

    And yeah like I said if my BP is in the low range, I don't see why I wouldn't use a pwo on some days
    Will save you money and tou can find it cheap in bulk..i paid about $38.99 for 80 servings of agmatine and Cit Mallate 100 servings... I still have to get details on how many mgs i should take pre workout.

    Scoop and a half agmatine is about 1200 mgs and 1 scoop cit mal i believe is 3 gms...ill dose that with 1-1.5 gms LCLT and taurine 3 grams i believe(havent used it yet,the bulk,just got it and dont remeber how many grams per scoop ,along with caffeine depending time of day,im gtg)..i have to watch my money as well.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Will save you money and tou can find it cheap in bulk..i paid about $38.99 for 80 servings of agmatine and Cit Mallate 100 servings... I still have to get details on how many mgs i should take pre workout.

    Scoop and a half agmatine is about 1200 mgs and 1 scoop cit mal i believe is 3 gms...ill dose that with 1-1.5 gms LCLT and taurine 3 grams i believe(havent used it yet,the bulk,just got it and dont remeber how many grams per scoop ,along with caffeine depending time of day,im gtg)..i have to watch my money as well.
    Reps when I jump on the comp tonight, thx big dawg. Deff gonna give that a try and make a little experiment out of the whole idea

  23. So I ended up going with a serving of the C4, and just got home from the gym. It's deff not my favorite prew/out, and it definitely raised my blood pressure significantly. On my last set of cable flys my heart started racing incredibly fast and could feel it throughout my whole chest, so I took a several minute break and got it back to normal, finished up my plate shrugs and bounced.

  24. DAY 9:

    MACROS- Cals: 3,100; Protein: 239g; Carbs: 295g

    As I said in one of my posts earlier today, I did bump my dose to 4 pills a day now(40mg). My chest workout today was pretty normal in terms of how I felt, but noticed I feel a little stronger on my last set of each lift...although that could have been the C4 pre-w/o I used today. I had to stop my shrugs early and go home because my heart started pulsing uncontrollably and almost hurt. Guessing it was high BP, but not positive. Will be buying a bp monitor asap to keep handy and monitor myself as needed.

    Bench press- 125x10, 145x8, 165x6, 165x4, 105x14 (definitely feelin my chest pop on that lay set
    DB shrugs- 55x16, 65x14, 75x10
    DB decline press- 35x8, 35x8, 40x10
    DB shoulder press- 25x10, 25x8, 30x8, 30x6
    Barbell cable pulldown- 60x16, 80x14, 100x12, 100x10
    Cable Flys- 40lb each 10x, 10x, 8x, 50lb 4x
    Plate shrugs 45lb each arm- 30x, 30x

  25. nice thread, good to see you got starting pics up as well, i was 22 (last year) when i did an andromass and epistane cycle, went from 82-94kg's in that 6 week period, and i went from curling 42.5kg on the EZ bar as my max to the big bad 60kg's. Ill be using epi again as part of my cut thats coming up soon. Anyways, for preworkout you could try getting beta-alanine powder off ebay if you like the adrenaline + burning skin kick, i dont like using anything with caffeine or sugar, although nowadays i just plug in the old earphones, and fire up some metal on my ipod to get me psyched
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