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    Quote Originally Posted by Red9

    Definitely not trying to run it as short as 4 weeks, but 5 weeks will be noted and considered. Just hate to stop right when things get good, as I know things don't start rolling till close to week 3 with most guys
    Some guys feel the intensity and changes as soon as day 10-13 i think dosing and how much you weigh play a role in this. I think the bigger you are the higher the dose should be someone who weighs 195-215 30mgs probably isn't worth it but ppl like 150-165 30 mgs may be noticed by week 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by cokeholio

    Some guys feel the intensity and changes as soon as day 10-13 i think dosing and how much you weigh play a role in this. I think the bigger you are the higher the dose should be someone who weighs 195-215 30mgs probably isn't worth it but ppl like 150-165 30 mgs may be noticed by week 2
    Yeah I feel yuhh on this, I guess I'll just see how things go. 5 weeks may just be a great run for me. I do agree I'm young, but at least not ignorant to the possible negative factors and I have all my support supps waiting on the sidelines. I just see a lot of guys wishing they'd kept their cycle a week or two longer for better gains, and I'd hate for that to be me ya know?
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    Oh I know u got ur ducks lined up I don't doubt that brother. Either way I'll be following. Did u get some before pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cokeholio
    Oh I know u got ur ducks lined up I don't doubt that brother. Either way I'll be following. Did u get some before pics?
    I'm having my gf take them tomorrow, which won't matter since I'm only gunna be 3 days in(my body will still look the same as on day 1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red9

    Yeah I feel yuhh on this, I guess I'll just see how things go. 5 weeks may just be a great run for me. I do agree I'm young, but at least not ignorant to the possible negative factors and I have all my support supps waiting on the sidelines. I just see a lot of guys wishing they'd kept their cycle a week or two longer for better gains, and I'd hate for that to be me ya know?

    most of us have a few cycles on our belt and we're heavier than you (atm) and older.
    IMO a 5 weeker is good, lol I still rather have u get your weight up and endocrine system to mature some more
    kudos to u brother, atleast your taking this serious, and your committed.
    when u do feel its on, make sure u hit it hard in the gym, squat that $**t , that helps significantly, even when your not on cycle, squats help you grow big effing time, did I mention how important squats are lol dead lifts TOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightclub2012

    most of us have a few cycles on our belt and we're heavier than you (atm) and older.
    IMO a 5 weeker is good, lol I still rather have u get your weight up and endocrine system to mature some more
    kudos to u brother, atleast your taking this serious, and your committed.
    when u do feel its on, make sure u hit it hard in the gym, squat that $**t , that helps significantly, even when your not on cycle, squats help you grow big effing time, did I mention how important squats are lol dead lifts TOO
    My deadlift and squat suffered severely from a couple accidents within the last few years, but I just hit a PR on deadlifts 245x5 feeling accomplished. I will definitely work my butt off though, and I'm determined to hold all my gains!

    Thanks for all your mature advice, some people can just be Dbags about it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red9

    My deadlift and squat suffered severely from a couple accidents within the last few years, but I just hit a PR on deadlifts 245x5 feeling accomplished. I will definitely work my butt off though, and I'm determined to hold all my gains!

    Thanks for all your mature advice, some people can just be Dbags about it lol

    if that's a weak point make it your strongest. if you can bench more than you can squat, you need to turn that around ASAP.
    if your healed up from your injuries, make the effort and squat at 90 perfect form regardless what weight it is , or no weight at all. bro I'm telling you, you'll grow and get stronger. I always say what a friend use tell me, take the ego out of the equation and execute the movement in perfect form, who gives a crap what your max is, perform the exercise with full ROM and results will speak for themselves.
    lol *Did I mention how important it is to squat*
    another thing , deep squats are awesome too.
    girls don't want chicken legs bro, so hit it hard, calves & hams, it is utterly important.
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    I live by this "Its not about what you lift,but how you lift"

    I dont lift as much as alot of guys,nor do i care too. What i care about is my form,negatives and my rom on everything i do. Add in some drop sets and Pre Exhausts and your on the road to success,lol !!!!!

    yeah ill be the first to say and not to pat myself on the back,but my form on everything is damn near perfect.your body dont know weight.I can make 50lb DB flat presses feel like 100s if I choose to,causI know what im doing... these days,heaviest I go is like 90dbs on the flat for 6-8 reps as an example. Some days no heavier than 70s but all depends on what i feel like that day.

    Point is train hard and right kid and you will succeed.
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    Form had been a huge focus point of mine this year. I see so many guys my age, younger and even older who lift a lot heavier than me...but I laugh to myself in my own head because most of these guys have awful form Lol. I do realize that my squat and deadlift are weak points, so I'm setting out to improve them dramatically these next 12-14 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red9 View Post
    Form had been a huge focus point of mine this year. I see so many guys my age, younger and even older who lift a lot heavier than me...but I laugh to myself in my own head because most of these guys have awful form Lol. I do realize that my squat and deadlift are weak points, so I'm setting out to improve them dramatically these next 12-14 weeks
    good to hear.

    One way to bring up your deadlifts are rack pulls, read into them. another way is high reps.

    As for squats best way to bring them up is to incorporate whats called BOX SQUATS in your routine,its a power lifting movement. there are other ways but being u dont have an expierienced partner and u most likley train at a reg gym like i do.Stick with deep squats and incorporate box squats,im telling you from expierience,they help big time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    good to hear.

    One way to bring up your deadlifts are rack pulls, read into them. another way is high reps.

    As for squats best way to bring them up is to incorporate whats called BOX SQUATS in your routine,its a power lifting movement. there are other ways but being u dont have an expierienced partner and u most likley train at a reg gym like i do.Stick with deep squats and incorporate box squats,im telling you from expierience,they help big time.
    Yeah it sucks not having a spotter, so on squat and bench I stick to the Smith where I have the clips if I want to go till failure. I haven't used the box for a few years, so I'll prob use it tomorrow when I do legs I'll look into rack pulls after work, thx!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red9 View Post
    Yeah it sucks not having a spotter, so on squat and bench I stick to the Smith where I have the clips if I want to go till failure. I haven't used the box for a few years, so I'll prob use it tomorrow when I do legs I'll look into rack pulls after work, thx!
    your welcome,rack pulls are in a sens similar to partials when u are benching.Basically rack pulls help you break past sticking point where you struggle most at a certain weight u are stuck at.

    I train alone and always have,so i rarely ever bench so my bench sux due to that,but i love dbs anyway and the smith machine is great as its still a compound movement,but stabalizers are not evinvolved,plus it hlps isolate a muscle.I always use the smith machine. Its a great piece of equiptment.
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    yeaah Jay, I do what you do solo too. I do a lot of cross fit stuff, TRX suspension bands, and straight up Bodybuilding stuff, I like mixing it up, . I'm loving db chest press on the stability ball, and whatever I can think of , and if i havent I'm going to do it LOL. slow progressive movements, full range, core tight.
    box squats are awesome,
    Ill go heavy for couple of weeks on everything, then ill go kinda light. constantly changing things up but still keeping the big 3 in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightclub2012 View Post
    yeaah Jay, I do what you do solo too. I do a lot of cross fit stuff, TRX suspension bands, and straight up Bodybuilding stuff, I like mixing it up, . I'm loving db chest press on the stability ball, and whatever I can think of , and if i havent I'm going to do it LOL. slow progressive movements, full range, core tight.
    box squats are awesome,
    Ill go heavy for couple of weeks on everything, then ill go kinda light. constantly changing things up but still keeping the big 3 in there.
    very cool man,u seem to have a good head on your shoulders.Cross fit is great but expensive, a co worker of mine decided to diet and start traing,he does strcictly cross fit and has lost a lot of weight and looks diff,its amazing stuff.

    stability ball presses are great.i never done them but have to and should start to incorporate them,cause its a great thing for a complete core workout.

    i blew my back out Deadlifting in March,my form is spot on,i blew it out on a ****ty 250,but have a bad lower back so i think it was itching to happen,i was out of work for 4 weeks and gym for weeks..im literally scared to dead lift,so my DL days are done..Legs i go light on squats as well these days and leg presses..i beat my body up through years of construction work,im 34 notw and everything is startiong to kick in and thats a bad thing,lol
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    Jay keep it up bro, rehab yourself or have your chiropractor guide you.
    yes Xfit is pricey, my baby's mommy is a NASM certified pt, her gym has everything, big loader tires for flipping, sledgehammers,TRX, Bosu balls, stability balls, dog sleds, indoor field astro turf about 35 yards x 20 yards . bro its like a power systems catalog, a few NY Gants players train there in the off season, its a privately owned facility. Bootcamp, HIIT, Xfit not official there yet but they incorporate a lot of movements. and time you etc.
    its what every gym should be. I actually have a membership for The YMCA but it blows, well sort of. I go there for basic stuff, I don't always do HIIT or bootcamp it burns to many calories lol. Xfit as well, it's cool to destroy yourself tho lol (at the Ymca' indoor swimming)
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    I know im late on this and i am a noobie here but i will definitely be following your updates red9, best of luck to you bro. although it sounds like you won't need any luck what so ever, sounds like you really know what you're doing. im still in the learning process so i'll be in tune.
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    Glad to have you man, any followers are welcomed on this thread. And thank you. We are ALL still learning, including me! I just figured maybe now its time for a little hands on experience
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    Day 2:
    Back/Biceps/Abs day: I may/may not have spent too much time today lol tomorrow will give me my answer by how sore i am. I spent almost 2 hours in the gym today, but I spaced my sets with a little more time than I usually do(being that I wanted to keep form good and didnt have to rush to be anywhere really)!

    Workout consisted of:
    -Lat pulldown- 105x10x2, 120x10, 135x10
    -Barbell deadlift- 155x10, 185x10, 225x8, 245x5(failure)
    -V-bar row sitting- 75x12, 90x10, 105x10
    -Ab Crunch- 25x, 20x, 20x and then weighted with 25lb plate x15
    -Cable crunch w/ rope- 70x20, 90x20, 100x15
    -Preacher Curl- 55x14, 75x8x2, 85x8(failure)
    -Barbell Cable Curl- Pyramid starting at 80lbs to failure, moving weight down 10lbs each failure until 10lbs remaining.

    My biceps were feeling just fine up until the cable pyamid lol that really ate me up...I had to make a pit stop on the bench for some extra arm stretching due to the fact that they were burning and aching so bad. That burn/pull you get in your muscle when you know you got it good

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    -Carbs- 235g
    -Fats-126g
    -Protein- 260g

    Nothing to report for any side effects or notice of the Epi working. Off to bed, hopefully get some good sleep. Putting in an order tomorrow with some 3Z on its way....sleeps been sh!t the last couple weeks, cant afford that while I'm runnin this thang!
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    Well, sleep was much better last night. Woke up a few times and had to piss, but can't complain. Another thing I noticed I forgot to do is tell you guys how much water I'm drinking and when I'm taking my supports, SO I'M GUNNA SAY IT RIGHT NOW.. The only thing I'm drinking is the protein shakes, and other than that I'm ONLY DRINKING WATER. I don't even think about drinking soda...I've had a gulp of a Dr pepper or pepsi maybe FIVE times this entire year to give you guys an idea of how frequent I do. Other than that I'm always a juice, milk or water kinda dude.

    The last week or so I'm taking in about 80-100oz of water, and the past two days it's been a solid gallon. Been pissin like crazy I tell ya !! As for supports, I take my AI Cycle support one(1) scoop with my whey shake when I wake, and one scoop with my casein at bedtime.

    -pantothenic acid three times daily spread out
    -fish oils twics daily
    -multi with first meal of day, along with recommended dose of HB
    -glucosamine also with first meal of day

    Today is day 3, so I will be bumping up to 30mg(10mg 3x as IBE pills are 10mg each) and off to hit legs sometime today but in no hurry, I have friday off from work today
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    cool Red9.
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    Looks good. So far. My supports have been shipped out finally so I'll be a week behind you
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    Quote Originally Posted by cokeholio
    Looks good. So far. My supports have been shipped out finally so I'll be a week behind you
    Good chance we'll be starting pct the same time then, guess we'll see
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    can't wait to see your updates when things start getting amp'd up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonk202
    can't wait to see your updates when things start getting amp'd up!
    Haha you're tellin me! I'm stoked about GETTIN SWOLE BRO! Lol
    Hopefully start noticing things in a week
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    There is no way in hell u did 85 lb preacher curls with proper form or even close,NO WAY BRO,LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    There is no way in hell u did 85 lb preacher curls with proper form or even close,NO WAY BRO,LOL
    My biceps are a strong point of mine. For 8 months I sat in conti jail curling water bags, and being in an environment for 2 years where I only had dumbells that's a whole lot of curls going on.

    Hope you don't think I mean 85lbs each arm....? I'm talkin on a curl bar. Bar weighs 35 with 25's on each side...
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    Bro I thought you were doing DB preacher curls with 85 lb dumbbells per arm lol...the whole damn gym would be looking at you! Thanks for clearing that up
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985
    Bro I thought you were doing DB preacher curls with 85 lb dumbbells per arm lol...the whole damn gym would be looking at you! Thanks for clearing that up
    Lol naa I wish. Maybe someday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red9 View Post
    My biceps are a strong point of mine. For 8 months I sat in conti jail curling water bags, and being in an environment for 2 years where I only had dumbells that's a whole lot of curls going on.

    Hope you don't think I mean 85lbs each arm....? I'm talkin on a curl bar. Bar weighs 35 with 25's on each side...
    i thought u meant 85 lb dbs,each arm,lol
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    DAY 3:

    So today was leg day. Because of how hard I pushed myself last leg day, I kept today real light on weight and forfeited doing barbell squats. Did 10 minutes on a stationary bike, kettlebell squats, leg presses at half weight of my usual, calf presses and called it a night.

    MACROS:
    -Calories- 3,250
    -Protein-261
    -Carbs-260

    Today was first day at 30mg, so being awake for about 15 hours of a day I spread my pills out 5 hours apart.

    Tomorrow is rest day, next leg day will be a good one for me
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