He guys, just came across some good old m1t. I've used sd in the past, but never m1t.
Anyone any experience with m1t?
I thought it was banned in the us in2004, but it is still available in the uk.
it works and its toxic. it feels like poison to some people. i was doing a cycle of it one time and had a urinalysis done and they told me it had blood cells in it. with the other options available on the market today, there is really no reason to be cycling m1t imo. m4ohn is available from the uk also.
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17a-methyl-1-testosterone, or 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1-androsten-3-one, or 17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-ene-3-one-17b-ol
910-1600:100-220 vs. methyl test by oral administration. 
Methyl-1-testosterone, 17aa-M1T, M1T, Methyl Dread, M-One-T, 17a-methyl-dihydroboldenone
It was originally synthesized as early as 1962 at Searle Laboratories though, like most compounds researched in the 1960s, never made it as far as human testing. Although it was extremely anabolic, it also possessed fairly strong androgenic qualities and was consigned to the annals of history, until it was unearthed decades later to take the bodybuilding supplement industry by storm.
M1T was the culmination of an arms race in the industry during the late 90s and early 2000s that started when Patrick Arnold released the prohormone to testosterone 4-androstenedione. He then followed it up with the hugely popular 1-androstenediol, a 1-testosterone precursor. Other firms took this one step further by producing the already-active 1-testosterone, and finally Legal Gear (now LG Sciences) upped the ante by bringing to market Methyl 1-Testosterone (M1T), which unlike the previous compounds was an entirely synthetic (non-naturally occurring) fully active oral steroid. 
The popularity of this and other synthetic hormones (along with a couple of sports doping scandals) attracted a lot of unwanted attention to the industry, resulting in the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 which saw M1T, 1-AD, 4-AD, and every prohormone and steroid the US govt. could think of added to Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act, making them illegal to sell or possess,  though no legislative action has been taken against it in the UK at the time of writing.
Structure and Function:
This is a 17a-methylated compound, making it highly orally available. It lacks the delta-4 double bond of testosterone, having a 1,2 double bond instead. This means that it will not aromatise, and it will not 5a-reduce in androgen-sensitive tissues like testosterone can (since it's 5a-reduced already). Metabolism is limited, to a large extent, to reduction of the double bond and hydroxylation of the 3-ketone. 
Fig 1. Metabolism of 1-androstenes  (image simplified for illustrative purposes).
Users can expect significant and rapid weight gain accompanied by extreme gains in strength. This is not a compound to be underestimated and would be well-suited to those looking for immediate results. Some of the weight gained will be in the form of fluid retention that will be lost upon cessation, though long-lasting physique improvements can be made by taking full advantage of the short highly anabolic window of the cycle.
Many have assumed that M1T aromatises, however that is structurally impossible. What is possible - and much more likely in my opinion - is that it is an inhibitor of 11b-hydroxylase, which would account for both the apparent water retention ("bloat") and high blood pressure some users experience.
Inhibition of 11b-hydroxylase can lead to increased renin secretion which results in higher levels of aldosterone, a mineralocorticoid that causes high blood pressure and water retention through sodium retention and the excretion of potassium. 
One study on bodybuilders found far higher levels of aldosterone in the steroid-taking group than in the non-steroid taking group - and these changes remained far past the end of their cycles. 
This may or may not be the case for M1T (and many other steroids), but it is food for thought, particularly as a previous study pointed the finger at aldosterone as a cause of left ventricular hypertrophy, and suggested that it's heart remodelling effects may be unrelated to it's blood-pressure increasing effects. 
Liver toxicity is also a concern with this compound. While there are many 17a-methylated compounds on the market, they are not all equally hepatotoxic at like-for-like dosages. Protodrol for example is likely to impart minimal hepatic impact at doses of 100mg for six weeks, while 20mg of M1T for a couple of weeks will significantly adversely affect liver function markers. Abuse of this drug with high doses for long periods of time can result in intrahepatic cholestasis (jaundice), and for this reason cycles should be kept short, low-dosed, and alcohol-free.
Recommended Dosages and Cycle Durations:
Most trainees should see dramatic results at 10mg/day for two to three weeks, the cautious may do well on 5mg, while the more reckless will use higher doses and durations. Although cycles are short, it's a strong suppressive compound, so a full SERM PCT protocol is advised.
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thanks man....probably wise to stick to sd I guess.....or maybe just a 2 or 3 week cycle. decisions decisionsOriginally Posted by RH2012
It's better than SD but it's also worse. If you could use it with test it would be better. I feel like azz but look awesome on it.
It's the sh!t but you feel like it too, lethargy like crazy.
I logg'd it back in 07? Search my name & M1T, you shouldn't have trouble finding it.
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thanks man...I 'm going to look it upOriginally Posted by Distilled Water
thanks bro....using it as a kicker along side test can be an option. sd at a higher dose made me feel like asssss, but look awesome. Oh well, looking awesome is what it's all about...lolOriginally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2
Took a lot of m1t by legal gear years ago. Cycled 2 weeks on 2 off for let's just say a very long time. ( got sold a bunch real cheap before the ban) never did a oct or pct. total lack of knowledge and expertise. It was sold to me by the owner of worlds gym which I believe are all pf now! I had no idea what I was taking for years but lets just say huge strength gains. And even to this day I can stop training for a year and it only takes me about 2 months to gain it all back. I guess it effects everyone different. I have no adverse health effects that I know of. I do know it's 7 times more anabolic then testosterone!
damn bro....strong body and liver ....7times more anabolic then test? very interestingOriginally Posted by BigShadow
Hey but now they're both illegal..LOL
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not in the ukOriginally Posted by vidapreta
still available, around 25 pounds per bottle.
its 9-16 times as anabolic as methyl testosterone according to Vida by oral adm. personally i have ran m1t several times and the gains seem to slow or stop after about 3-4 weeks. i actually got better results from superdrol.
M1t is good stuff. Alpha one is a ph to m1t, as well as being active on its own, good shiit.
Make sure you use cycle assist.
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M1t = poison
Superdrol is safe comparitively.