Clen only cycle for fat loss
- 09-06-2012, 12:22 PM
- 09-06-2012, 12:24 PM
Originally Posted by fame126
09-06-2012, 12:32 PM
I was worried that I might actually die. I was getting close to calling 911.Originally Posted by fame126
09-06-2012, 01:06 PM
Yep 2 on 2 off taking bcaas and protein only. I do have occasional cramps not too bad thoOriginally Posted by Mkspillai
09-06-2012, 01:07 PM
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09-06-2012, 05:39 PM
I've used clen 4 different times. First two with 20mcg tabs that I went up to 120mcg/day and only got some headache issues with great fat loss.
The next two attempts were with research chems and each time I had to stop. Even tried using only 40mcg, but I would cramp, get sinus inflammation/headache and an occasional chest pain right where the heart is located. That was enough for me personally to not use clen anymore.
Just another example of how individuals differ and even change with time, as the two different scenarios above were separated by 6-7yrs.
I've tried albuterol and it is much more mild than clen; however, the results are less impressive.
09-07-2012, 06:08 PM
Yes it is much easier to get fat than it is to stay lean while gaining muscle.......
Gaining excess fat in off-season will result in a greater risk in losing ANY accrued muscle gains you made in off-season due to cutting off that excess blubber you gained.
I have witness several times people 'thinking' they gained lots of new muscle in off-season as they sky-rocketed to 15,16,20 % BF --- losing abs, excess lower back fat etc.... all to diet the new gains away to reach competition level BF%....
Had they been mentally tough and strict even during off-season, and kept BF in the 11-12% range....they would have had to do LESS cardio, LESS calorie restricting and not be so aggressive with fat - loss agents etc.. and feel worn out from a 16 week prep.
09-07-2012, 08:22 PM
That's what I thought... I wanted to get as lean as possible and then start a bulk where I can keep my bf at abt 12-14%... That made more sense to me than bulking first and then planning a cut... Hard to know what the bulk is..Originally Posted by MattPorter
09-07-2012, 11:08 PM
Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.
09-08-2012, 06:38 AM
While i agree with you on the prep part, not everyone does shows. My last prep was living hell, i bulked late and i paid for it with a 12 week nightmare cut. I ran multiple compounds and was able to save almost all muscle while cutting fat, but i hated every minute of it. For the rest of the guys who simply want to be big in the gym, our situation really doesn't apply.
09-08-2012, 06:41 AM
09-09-2012, 09:56 AM
Day 1 on clen.. Had a severe headache towards the end of the day.... Workout was good.. But the heat was getting to me...was sweating like nobody's business... Drank abt 5 litres of water through the day cuz I was thirsty as hell and mouth was dry..
09-09-2012, 09:06 PM
How much did you take? And ya work outs are insane with sweating. Went through two towels lifting One day.Originally Posted by Mkspillai
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09-09-2012, 09:45 PM
Was day one so I started on 40mcg... I stuck to the same today too... No headache today... Just shakes... And sweating.. Sometimes it feels like a heat wave... I was driving with air on on full and still was feeling hot... And my hunger is insane... That's one thing I'm worried abt... I normally get full after each of my meal.., but I felt like I just had a starter..Originally Posted by Lhns2
09-09-2012, 11:03 PM
What type of stress does Clen put on the heart? Does it just make the heart work harder or is there more to it?
09-09-2012, 11:06 PM
If u read through the thread it actually explains the effect on heart...Originally Posted by crap711
09-09-2012, 11:11 PM
Not sure how it works but it does raise ur heartbeat.... I could feel my hard beating... When u workout or cardio it gets faster... HIT is a no no on clen...Originally Posted by crap711
09-10-2012, 12:11 AM
I am one of the few who realize clen is not anti catabolic due to the doseages they used in the study everyone knows. They were way higher than humans can handle even scaled down.
Let muscle memory do its job. Cut,lose fat and muscle and gain muscle back in 2 to 3 weeks of eating at base level.
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09-10-2012, 06:10 AM
I have recently been using an ECA stack. I was taking 700mg of caffeine a day and eventually got burnt out and was permanently tired, my gp ordered me off it for a few weeks to reset my tolerance. Its been about a week but the ECA stack was great for energy on a cut, would clen be a similar standard? I still want to stay of caffeine for a few more weeks.
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