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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimozz View Post
    Agreed. The parents needed a scapegoat. Couldn't accept that their son would kill himself
    that something common with most ppl man. people dont know how to accept lifes realitys.in turn they place blame everywhere else except where the problem is.

    One scenario,kid is depressed and commited suicide.His father semed like one of those that pushed baseball on his son.Maybe his son did steroids cause his father was never happy with how his son did. maybe he wasnt as good as he should have been while using anabolics.he had underlying issues to commit suicide. maybe he felt he would never make his father happy.

    deep down down the father may have known the way he treated his son may have contributed to it.so why not blame something society hates.

    thats thinkning a bit deep,lol....but ya never know.people are full of excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roniboney View Post
    I'm running a 10mg sd for 6 weeks and I consider that extreme as hell.Imagine 20-30mg for 6 weeks.Goodbye sweet liver and kidneys
    See now THIS is ignorant, sorry to say.

    I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.

    I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.

    Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187 View Post
    See now THIS is ignorant, sorry to say.

    I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.

    I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.

    Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
    agreed bro..I passed on commenting.i was close to saying something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Because alcohol is not a preformance enhancing drug. Essentially it was the concept of cheating in sports/ olympics that caused gear to be banned. Also that kid who had Major depression and killed him self while on steroids (which in my personal opinion was not the juice but the depression). The CDC, DEA, Public health and other organizations actually argued that steroids should be legal during the scheduling of steroids.
    My old roommate went to HS with Taylor Hooten and said he was a spoiled ******* with a myriad of issues. Plano West is a VERY rich area and many of them are into recreational drugs and, anecdotally, Hooten was one of the many to partake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roniboney View Post
    I'm running a 10mg sd for 6 weeks and I consider that extreme as hell.Imagine 20-30mg for 6 weeks.Goodbye sweet liver and kidneys
    I'm doing 10/20/20/10/10/10/10/10 (tried 30 but had insomnia)
    Been saying I'm on my last 6th week..
    Come at me haters
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    I do not think that is too crazy assuming you have proper supports, I would picture diminishing returns after 6 weeks though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    I'm doing 10/20/20/10/10/10/10/10 (tried 30 but had insomnia)
    Been saying I'm on my last 6th week..
    Come at me haters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    I do not think that is too crazy assuming you have proper supports, I would picture diminishing returns after 6 weeks though.
    I'm not trying to gain muscle, cutting, lost alot of weight too

    I'm considering running supports year round, already doing that with bulk milk thistle


    Only side effects I'm getting are: Shin Pumps and Blood Pressure which is my main concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteri
    Hahaha!!!! I did the same thing.
    I got back with a girl I dated pretty much all through highschool, we'd been back together for about a month,
    And I was prepping for the Nabba Worlds.

    My gf said..."babe a few of my friends said you take steroids?"
    I replied "who?"
    She then told me a few girls names, and I said "what would they know? What I do is none of there business anyway!".
    There was a silence......
    Then she says "soooooo, have you??"
    "have I what?" I say
    "have you ever taken steroids????"

    "Hahahahaha!!!! I'm on them right now."
    She then starts to freak out.......
    Starts saying **** like, don't they make you crazy? Don't they make you angry?

    I reply "no, have I been angry or crazy the whole time we've been together?"
    She says no!
    So I tell her, well that's me, I'm not gonna change iv been doing them for a few years now!

    So then she says, " can I watch you take them?"
    I said sure tomorrow I have to do it, so u can watch.
    She then proceeds to tell me, " I don't know how I feel about this!"

    I tell her "lance Armstrong needs a bike to do what he loves, and achieve his goals! Well this is my bike"
    I then pull out BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER!
    N we watch that.
    Then she says "ok cool, well can I start injecting you?" geeeezzzzz!!!!

    From that day she now does most of my injections in hard to reach places like delts, Lats n glutes
    N she now wants to know of there's any girly ones for her LOL
    That's amazing lol sounds like a great girl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Just to turn this thread in a different direction over half the people on this forum are ignorant on steroids. There is more then 10 threads a week on 16-18 year olds wanting to do gear. There are posts on people wanting to run superdrol at high dosages for 5-6 weeks and run an otc pct.

    So yes the public is ignorant but some of the people here are more retarded then ignorant.
    Definitely agree with this. Don't have a problem helping people who are asking but way too many threads go like this:

    OP: Starting a 12 week test e/tren cycle with an SD kicker and anavar weeks 8-12 first cycle my buddy is injecting me my first shot right now!

    Other: You got a PCT planned out?

    OP: What's a PCT? Never heard of it.
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    I don't have a problem with teens that know there ****, but I haven't came across any yet. I'm sure I have though they just posin' to be older when their not
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    My girl re acted a bit weird when i told her,as she kept looking at my supps asking " what is all this **** and why is it all over the kitchen table" lol

    she said once in a while is fine,she dont want me all jacked up,but here and there is ok,as long as i do everything safe and right.

    thats how i like it anyway,im not into this whole anabolic thing,but here n there to cut some fat,help with a plataueeu etc...its a nice treat =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    My girl re acted a bit weird when i told her,as she kept looking at my supps asking " what is all this **** and why is it all over the kitchen table" lol
    LOLx2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    agreed bro..I passed on commenting.i was close to saying something.
    We're all men here,speak your mind man I can take being called an idiot from behind a computer screen if that's what people want to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by R1187 View Post
    See now THIS is ignorant, sorry to say.

    I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.

    I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.

    Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
    If you were sorry to say it then you wouldn't have said it. But I'm a big boy and I'll take the bad with the good.No offense taken.I have never seen that discussed or recommended on these forums at all so yes you can call that ignorance.

    I shudder to think what people who are not ready for these compounds would do if a 6 week cycle at 20 or 30mg was practiced on this site by the more advanced and became standard procedure.In that sense I would rather people stay ignorant and if that includes myself then so be it.
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    i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks
    Quote Originally Posted by Roniboney View Post
    We're all men here,speak your mind man I can take being called an idiot from behind a computer screen if that's what people want to say.

    If you were sorry to say it then you wouldn't have said it. But I'm a big boy and I'll take the bad with the good.No offense taken.I have never seen that discussed or recommended on these forums at all so yes you can call that ignorance.

    I shudder to think what people who are not ready for these compounds would do if a 6 week cycle at 20 or 30mg was practiced on this site by the more advanced and became standard procedure.In that sense I would rather people stay ignorant and if that includes myself then so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks
    You are a unique case. I have seen many people end up in the hospital from taking orals too long /too high dosage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roniboney View Post
    insanely awesome women in bed are the same type that poke holes in condoms
    Yeah that's y u always bring ur own condems and u could also pull out if ur that worried.
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    I've never ran any super long oral only cycle, but I have pushed the limit due to minimal sides. And my liver values always checked out good. So yeah I'd say the toxicity of orals are overexaggerated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks
    You ran methyl products for over 20 weeka straight?? If not then 20 weeks is fine,but imo overkill.I dont take any oral supps for more than 2-3 months tops with atleast a 4-8 week break and a liver cleanse,wheteher its a methyl or not. Still stressing your liver.This is just my opinion.

    I live by the quote "Better be safe than sorry"

    If i do run some sort of anabolic i will follow what the masses say,cause its better to be safw.

    And i dont have an ego or complex where i need to stay on **** where i would need to get super strong and super jacked in 2-3 months.

    I been training all natural appx 7 yrs and with only 1-6week cycle of HD..I have another cycle similar set for April 2013.Which is a yr from when i ended my recent hd cycle.
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    IF is always something I'm considering as a "support" for the liver, anyone have any thoughts on this ? worthwhile ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    IF is always something I'm considering as a "support" for the liver, anyone have any thoughts on this ? worthwhile ?
    as in intermittent fasting?

    If so then maybe.I can see where you coming from with the whole detox(but that is exaggerated).It would make a minimal to no difference I believe but the only way to prove it is to get bloods when eating more meals and then run a cycle using IF and get bloods.
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    ya i do mostly injectables now with orals for 4 weeks to start and 4 weeks to finish
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    You ran methyl products for over 20 weeka straight?? If not then 20 weeks is fine,but imo overkill.I dont take any oral supps for more than 2-3 months tops with atleast a 4-8 week break and a liver cleanse,wheteher its a methyl or not. Still stressing your liver.This is just my opinion.

    I live by the quote "Better be safe than sorry"

    If i do run some sort of anabolic i will follow what the masses say,cause its better to be safw.

    And i dont have an ego or complex where i need to stay on **** where i would need to get super strong and super jacked in 2-3 months.

    I been training all natural appx 7 yrs and with only 1-6week cycle of HD..I have another cycle similar set for April 2013.Which is a yr from when i ended my recent hd cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    ya i do mostly injectables now with orals for 4 weeks to start and 4 weeks to finish
    Wish more sites would take credit cards. -___-.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimozz View Post
    Wish more sites would take credit cards. -___-.
    Do you know how dumb that is?
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    you guys know why steroids are illegal? it's because law enforcement and "higher ups" don't want civilians to be bigger and stronger than them and kick their butts hehe. they want us to be weak and die off.. it's all part of their big plan, haha. I'm crazy, I know.. had to say it though.
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    Yea credit cards are traceable bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyBeast
    Yea credit cards are traceable bro.
    Not prepaid credit cards. And western union seems way more sketchy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimozz

    Not prepaid credit cards. And western union seems way more sketchy
    How so? You don't need to use a real name or show ID. The only way you could be caught is if there's cameras recording the whole transaction, which seems time intensive just to catch a purchaser
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    Yeah I've thought bought prepaid cards too but most would rather western union or money gram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Agreed its insane! People I know post stuff about smoking weed and doing meth and popping pain killers but if you mention steroids to any of them they look at you like a scumbag horrible person! And god damn I hate when people say oh he's on steroids so his penis is smaller now...that **** bugs me! People need to educate themselves
    Lmao. Ikr. It's like no bitch... my balls are smaller now not my dick.!!!!
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    I had the same perception the public did, that steroids are evil, and everyone who uses them looks retarded (because, face it, science backs what I am bout to say: when you are too big, it is not considered attractive generally. No reason to fight me, you'd have to fight science. I get a lot of steroid users goals are not to be considered attractive, but to be huge. Just saying though).

    But then I said f it, and was able to legally obtain a prescription for testosterone cypionate. Knew long, long in advance the protocols, such as taking nolva and clomid for a PCT, as well as how long to do a cycle, and at what dose. Decided to do it. Beforehand, my fiance told me she would break up with me if I ever did steroids. I told her "don't worry, it's testosterone, not steroids" (lol). Long story short, she doesn't care 5 weeks in, and actually says she doesn't care to even talk about it, because it isn't very interesting. She does however like giving injections (she is going in the medical field), so I'd say she's made quite a 180 degree turn.

    Just like me.


    I still side with science though, that too big is as bad as too small. IMO, at 5'11, 185 lbs with single digit body fat is the ideal, perfect size and weight. Many will disagree, but that doesn't matter much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasxavier
    I had the same perception the public did, that steroids are evil, and everyone who uses them looks retarded (because, face it, science backs what I am bout to say: when you are too big, it is not considered attractive generally. No reason to fight me, you'd have to fight science. I get a lot of steroid users goals are not to be considered attractive, but to be huge. Just saying though).

    But then I said f it, and was able to legally obtain a prescription for testosterone cypionate. Knew long, long in advance the protocols, such as taking nolva and clomid for a PCT, as well as how long to do a cycle, and at what dose. Decided to do it. Beforehand, my fiance told me she would break up with me if I ever did steroids. I told her "don't worry, it's testosterone, not steroids" (lol). Long story short, she doesn't care 5 weeks in, and actually says she doesn't care to even talk about it, because it isn't very interesting. She does however like giving injections (she is going in the medical field), so I'd say she's made quite a 180 degree turn.

    Just like me.

    I still side with science though, that too big is as bad as too small. IMO, at 5'11, 185 lbs with single digit body fat is the ideal, perfect size and weight. Many will disagree, but that doesn't matter much.
    Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.
    An empirical peer reviewed study for me
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    i weigh 190-200 on gear and am i too big? I get the gh/insulin jay cutler look is just wrong but arnolds look was sick and he was huge, the guys are too big these days
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mls51112 View Post
    you guys know why steroids are illegal? it's because law enforcement and "higher ups" don't want civilians to be bigger and stronger than them and kick their butts hehe. they want us to be weak and die off.. it's all part of their big plan, haha. I'm crazy, I know.. had to say it though.
    It really has more to do with sports than anything else. Once they started using them in the Olympics, giving users an advantage over non-users, they had to do something to level the playing field. At first they said they didn't work. It didn't take long for people to see through that deception. Then they started to demonize them via the media. Most people beleive what they hear and see on TV as long as they consider the source reasonably credible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.
    I think you know what he is trying to say. By the mainstream definition, too big is unattractive. 99% of women would find jay Cutler disgusting
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    I think most women would find today's BB too big. But then again most people do it for themselves not for the ladies.

    Then again Arnold was huge and tons of women loved him. It's probe my more proportion than it is pure size
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i weigh 190-200 on gear and am i too big? I get the gh/insulin jay cutler look is just wrong but arnolds look was sick and he was huge, the guys are too big these days
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    I think you know what he is trying to say. By the mainstream definition, too big is unattractive. 99% of women would find jay Cutler disgusting
    You guys missed my point. He was stating that science backed what he was saying and I was merely using cutler and his wife as an example. Do you think his wife thinks he's unattractive? I doubt it. Mainstream definition and scientific studies are two vastly different things. While I agree that the pros are far too big there are still the girls that find it attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    You guys missed my point. He was stating that science backed what he was saying and I was merely using cutler and his wife as an example. Do you think his wife thinks he's unattractive? I doubt it. Mainstream definition and scientific studies are two vastly different things. While I agree that the pros are far too big there are still the girls that find it attractive.
    There are also guys that think 600+ pound women are attractive. I don't see your point
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    There are also guys that think 600+ pound women are attractive. I don't see your point
    My point was I highly doubt that there is any scientific evidence that too big is unattractive as everyone has different attractions.
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    Every girlfriend I've ever had and every girl that has ever been around when my buddies talk about this subject agrees that really big bodybuikders look disgusting. That's not most girls. Every single one. And that's gotta be around 50. They all say that what's hot is like the Taylor lautner (twilight guy) and Channing tatum body types are the hottest. (Reasonably muscular but not too big with good abs)
  

  
 

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