Public is ignorant on steroids
- 09-09-2012, 05:45 PM
One scenario,kid is depressed and commited suicide.His father semed like one of those that pushed baseball on his son.Maybe his son did steroids cause his father was never happy with how his son did. maybe he wasnt as good as he should have been while using anabolics.he had underlying issues to commit suicide. maybe he felt he would never make his father happy.
deep down down the father may have known the way he treated his son may have contributed to it.so why not blame something society hates.
thats thinkning a bit deep,lol....but ya never know.people are full of excuses.
- 09-09-2012, 05:54 PM
I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.
I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.
Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
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OP: Starting a 12 week test e/tren cycle with an SD kicker and anavar weeks 8-12 first cycle my buddy is injecting me my first shot right now!
Other: You got a PCT planned out?
OP: What's a PCT? Never heard of it.
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09-09-2012, 06:38 PM
I don't have a problem with teens that know there ****, but I haven't came across any yet. I'm sure I have though they just posin' to be older when their not
09-09-2012, 06:43 PM
My girl re acted a bit weird when i told her,as she kept looking at my supps asking " what is all this **** and why is it all over the kitchen table" lol
she said once in a while is fine,she dont want me all jacked up,but here and there is ok,as long as i do everything safe and right.
thats how i like it anyway,im not into this whole anabolic thing,but here n there to cut some fat,help with a plataueeu etc...its a nice treat =)
09-09-2012, 06:50 PM
09-09-2012, 08:14 PM
I shudder to think what people who are not ready for these compounds would do if a 6 week cycle at 20 or 30mg was practiced on this site by the more advanced and became standard procedure.In that sense I would rather people stay ignorant and if that includes myself then so be it.
09-09-2012, 08:39 PM
i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks
09-09-2012, 09:47 PM
You are a unique case. I have seen many people end up in the hospital from taking orals too long /too high dosageOriginally Posted by Husker89
09-10-2012, 07:38 AM
09-10-2012, 07:58 AM
I've never ran any super long oral only cycle, but I have pushed the limit due to minimal sides. And my liver values always checked out good. So yeah I'd say the toxicity of orals are overexaggerated.
09-10-2012, 08:54 AM
You ran methyl products for over 20 weeka straight?? If not then 20 weeks is fine,but imo overkill.I dont take any oral supps for more than 2-3 months tops with atleast a 4-8 week break and a liver cleanse,wheteher its a methyl or not. Still stressing your liver.This is just my opinion.Originally Posted by Husker89
I live by the quote "Better be safe than sorry"
If i do run some sort of anabolic i will follow what the masses say,cause its better to be safw.
And i dont have an ego or complex where i need to stay on **** where i would need to get super strong and super jacked in 2-3 months.
I been training all natural appx 7 yrs and with only 1-6week cycle of HD..I have another cycle similar set for April 2013.Which is a yr from when i ended my recent hd cycle.
09-10-2012, 09:26 AM
IF is always something I'm considering as a "support" for the liver, anyone have any thoughts on this ? worthwhile ?
09-10-2012, 09:29 AM
If so then maybe.I can see where you coming from with the whole detox(but that is exaggerated).It would make a minimal to no difference I believe but the only way to prove it is to get bloods when eating more meals and then run a cycle using IF and get bloods.
09-10-2012, 04:21 PM
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09-10-2012, 04:49 PM
you guys know why steroids are illegal? it's because law enforcement and "higher ups" don't want civilians to be bigger and stronger than them and kick their butts hehe. they want us to be weak and die off.. it's all part of their big plan, haha. I'm crazy, I know.. had to say it though.
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09-10-2012, 04:56 PM
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09-10-2012, 05:50 PM
How so? You don't need to use a real name or show ID. The only way you could be caught is if there's cameras recording the whole transaction, which seems time intensive just to catch a purchaserOriginally Posted by Danimozz
09-10-2012, 06:08 PM
12-12-2012, 01:22 PM
12-12-2012, 01:44 PM
I had the same perception the public did, that steroids are evil, and everyone who uses them looks retarded (because, face it, science backs what I am bout to say: when you are too big, it is not considered attractive generally. No reason to fight me, you'd have to fight science. I get a lot of steroid users goals are not to be considered attractive, but to be huge. Just saying though).
But then I said f it, and was able to legally obtain a prescription for testosterone cypionate. Knew long, long in advance the protocols, such as taking nolva and clomid for a PCT, as well as how long to do a cycle, and at what dose. Decided to do it. Beforehand, my fiance told me she would break up with me if I ever did steroids. I told her "don't worry, it's testosterone, not steroids" (lol). Long story short, she doesn't care 5 weeks in, and actually says she doesn't care to even talk about it, because it isn't very interesting. She does however like giving injections (she is going in the medical field), so I'd say she's made quite a 180 degree turn.
Just like me.
I still side with science though, that too big is as bad as too small. IMO, at 5'11, 185 lbs with single digit body fat is the ideal, perfect size and weight. Many will disagree, but that doesn't matter much.
12-12-2012, 09:26 PM
Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.Originally Posted by Thomasxavier
12-13-2012, 12:29 PM
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12-13-2012, 02:26 PM
I think most women would find today's BB too big. But then again most people do it for themselves not for the ladies.
Then again Arnold was huge and tons of women loved him. It's probe my more proportion than it is pure size
12-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by Husker89You guys missed my point. He was stating that science backed what he was saying and I was merely using cutler and his wife as an example. Do you think his wife thinks he's unattractive? I doubt it. Mainstream definition and scientific studies are two vastly different things. While I agree that the pros are far too big there are still the girls that find it attractive.Originally Posted by uvawahoowa
12-13-2012, 07:09 PM
12-13-2012, 07:20 PM
My point was I highly doubt that there is any scientific evidence that too big is unattractive as everyone has different attractions.Originally Posted by uvawahoowa
12-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Every girlfriend I've ever had and every girl that has ever been around when my buddies talk about this subject agrees that really big bodybuikders look disgusting. That's not most girls. Every single one. And that's gotta be around 50. They all say that what's hot is like the Taylor lautner (twilight guy) and Channing tatum body types are the hottest. (Reasonably muscular but not too big with good abs)
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