Ph cycle safe and effective?
- 08-30-2012, 11:06 AM
- 08-30-2012, 02:17 PM
There are plenty of logs on first cycles you can check out to get ideas. Those ph's are pretty safe, assuming that you use the right support supps and the right pct in place. Be advised though, there is a small percentage of people that don't react well to any ph, but those ppl tend to react bad to OTC products too.
08-30-2012, 02:28 PM
Safe is relative. If you have a failing liver, oral steroids are not safe. If you are in good health and take the necessary precautions yes they are reasonably safe. HPTA will recover, the liver will recover, treat your body well and you'll end up ok.
08-31-2012, 05:28 PM
I have already run superdrol a couple times. But I was ignorant to its toxicity and what pct was. So now I'm trying this. Should I see superdrol results from this stack?
08-31-2012, 05:32 PM
No you will not Superdrol is pretty much the king of all "PH's" and not many others will give similar results. I would not stack epistane and halodrol at the same time because they are both methylated if you are worried about safety. You say you've ran SD a couple times already, when was your last cycle? because it's not advise to be doing cycle after cycle after cycle without a few months to get your body back to homeostasis.
08-31-2012, 05:38 PM
great advice..i was about to say the same.Originally Posted by holysnikey
I dont get why ppl r in such a rush,wanna stack a whole bunch of ****...ridiculous.
08-31-2012, 06:15 PM
Yea plus I personally don't see the advantage of stacking halo and epi because they have such similar purposes and gains that it'd be safer to just up the dose of either one instead of stacking.
08-31-2012, 06:21 PM
08-31-2012, 06:44 PM
The best cycle i could recomend... depending on your goals:
Dry gains: epistane, androlean and androenhance
More mass gains: Halodrol, andromass and androenhance (you can pick one)
If you run the nor,19 whatever, stack it with androhard and androenhance...
with those 3 options you should get sweet gains and the best part is that it would be safe, and also smart because youll also enjoy it
support supps, with halodrol and epi... liver juice or TUDCA
toco-8, policosanol (specially with the epi), and celery seed
PCT: clomid 50 mgs, toco-8 and endroamp or any other cortisol blocker (rhodiola is a good choice, also, any phosphatyldylserine complex) i love endoamp to be honest.
good luck with your cycle
08-31-2012, 11:11 PM
Its been about 8 months since my last cycle. I had bad limp d last time and didn't appteciate it plus lost a good 75% of my gains within a couple weeks. I want to be big and defined but not a pro size. Maybe just stay at this bf% and add 30 dry pounds. Oh ps the halodrol is gonna be a low dose. Just for hardening.Originally Posted by holysnikey
08-31-2012, 11:49 PM
@ken I appteciate the info. What is toco-8? Anavar is going to be my pct of choice though. Along with some igf1.
08-31-2012, 11:52 PM
09-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Clomid I dont know how to run. You have to take it at the right time depending on your cycle and hormone levels or it doesn't work right. Anavar is easier to take and get. I just wanna keep my gains. Idc what I take for pct as long as it works well.Originally Posted by KenTheEagle
09-01-2012, 12:18 AM
Also strong test booster for after? Also I'm confused as how to use or what exactly cycle support is for. I dont want to take liver support during because from what I hear it can reduce effectiveness.
09-01-2012, 12:34 AM
Anavar is a steroid not something for PCT it needs its own PCT. You need a SERM of some sorts and they are very easily obtained for research purpose.
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09-01-2012, 12:43 AM
09-01-2012, 01:01 AM
Not quote sure what was going through my head. "Nolvadex" not anavar. Still a youngster in this game. Sorry guys
09-01-2012, 03:14 AM
I have a run set up. Which will be my second ph run.I wont stack 2 methyls.
Halodrol 50/50/50(20 days),75/75/75(20 days),100(final 5 days) Exactly how i recently ran it.
SNS DAA o/o/3/3/3/3/3/3
Now foods Liver Detox and Regenerator,Saw Palmetto,Fish Oil,Multi Vit (Anavite or Opti Men)
Running Erase Pro for the first time now,so i have to see how i react to it..
09-01-2012, 03:20 AM
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