Need help with Epistane cycle.
- 08-24-2012, 12:17 PM
Need help with Epistane cycle.
So i went to IBE's website to get some info on pulse cycling and they had some confusing/misleading information. They said for 5-6 week cycle take 40mg as a dose pre and post workout preferably before 6pm. Also run a 2on/2off or EOD but take no more than 4 doses a week...
I dont understand that because that would only be two days of dosing per week. Do they mean 4 days per week? or should i actually only take two days worth of dosing then wait until the next week.
My PCT is just OTC because I dont want to break any laws (nolva/arimidex are illegal) so im running DHEA with ErasePRO and a test booster.
Just need help with dosing and schedule. Training has been steady for three years and nutrition is spot on.
Thanks for any help.
- 08-24-2012, 02:48 PM
I will be running an epi cycle starting next week of 40mg for 4 wks. I know about the pulsing and it calls for dosing 4 days a week usually on training days. This method is done to prevent shutdown and even a pct, even though I think it is needed. Gains will be modest on this pulsing cycle. If this is ur first cycle, try it. But if little gains, just run it for 4 weeks straight w/o pulsing. Hope this helps.
- 08-24-2012, 04:19 PM
08-24-2012, 07:03 PM
im not doing nolva i would do an OTC PCT.
08-25-2012, 05:44 AM
Why only 4 weeks? Why not 5-6?Originally Posted by wellsoci
08-25-2012, 06:06 AM
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
08-25-2012, 10:12 AM
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Don't know how to feel about the pulseing...
I would just do a mild dose for 4-6 weeks.
08-25-2012, 04:06 PM
my body fat is at 7-8%... i dont know what you consider normal but thats low.
08-25-2012, 06:06 PM
I agree with superbeast, if your gunna use gear, then use it the right way. Epi is a technically considered a stage 3 prohormone (depending on who you are it may feel like a stage 2) point is, once you hit stage 2 you need a SERM or else you will get screwed up. If your reason you can't get a SERM is bc your "overseas", then don't even bother getting a ph.Originally Posted by mleonardi
08-25-2012, 07:11 PM
Dont pulse, just run the epi at 20mg a day. 10mg in the am and 10mg 6hrs later. You can run it for 5 weeks ant (gonna get flamed) otc will be fine. Just dont get greedy and bump it to 30 or 40mg. Per day. Still make decent gains at 20mg with good diet and training with very little suppression.
08-26-2012, 07:32 AM
Never otc pct never
Why would you? If you gamble with this, be prepared to lose.
Big muscles and big titties. Haha
08-26-2012, 10:33 PM
08-26-2012, 10:40 PM
i dont get why people think OTC PCT is enough, its not like SERMs are expensive
08-27-2012, 12:12 AM
08-27-2012, 02:14 AM
08-27-2012, 04:23 AM
You don't want to break any laws by getting a SERM. So I guess blood work is out as well then?
Yeah, great idea. Play around with PH and jeoperdize your body so you don't "break any laws."
That way, you can try to breast feed your kids like meet the parents. And keep making posts until somebody tells you what you want to hear, that OTC pct is enough. And come hard at people like me who are telling you that its a bad idea to not use a SERM. yup, another outstanding idea.
08-27-2012, 06:56 AM
08-27-2012, 03:36 PM
Ya know, to make it legal, shouldn't he just go to the cool Doc and say "I have gyno, perscription please..." Yea, he has to get ****ed up first, but there's a legal way...
08-27-2012, 03:44 PM
Dude it's so easy to get serms. You can order them online from so many places.
08-27-2012, 03:45 PM
True, but you would need to be sure it was only mild suppression. Everyone's different, a low dose for some is potent as s*** for others. If, by tests, it shows only mild suppression than you can go with an otc pct.Originally Posted by dagger1
08-27-2012, 03:45 PM
08-27-2012, 03:51 PM
You make a post thanking anyone for their help, but then you act like an idiot and a know-it-all when you get REAL advice from users who have ACTUAL expertise and experience with what you're running. News flash, Epistane is NOT a PH, IT'S A STEROID! If you don't want to run a SERM then don't even run a cycle at all. It's ignorant people like you who are feeding the new Ban Act 2012, because you use steroids with no previous knowledge, and think you've got the answers. Listen to people trying to help, it might do you some good. Save your body from the atrophy and problems, and COP A SERM OR DON'T RUN EPI. PERIOD.Originally Posted by mleonardi
08-27-2012, 04:01 PM
Not only that, but you can legally buy the research chemicals for clomid, tamox, AND torem LEGALLY here in the U.S. for very cheap. Did I mention LEGALLY!? They are dosed somewhat differently as far as ratios of the prescription tablets to the liquid, but do some research and you'll see that.Originally Posted by mleonardi
08-27-2012, 08:21 PM
All my rats have done extraordinarily well with research serms. But I must be a total "phucking idiot"
08-28-2012, 10:12 AM
Kudos ^^Originally Posted by Red9
08-28-2012, 04:35 PM
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