It would be good in a transdermal, or as an injectible when DesignerSupps brings out 4OHT-cyp. It is supposed to be about 2/3 as anabolic as testosterone, while being much less androgenic, and actually estrogenic. How anabolic it actually is is open to question, since results 'on paper' tend to be different from those in the real world. Still, there has been good feedback on incorporating some 4OHT into 4AD/1T cycles.