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    Anyone used androbulk ?


    Has anyone used this stuff and got any goo results ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Has anyone used this stuff and got any goo results ?

    I have not seen too many amazing reviews on it to be honest -- but I also think alot of people expect too much from it and also many opt for AndroMass instead as the Version 2 yielded great results.

    I would like to see more people try AndroBulk and AndroEnhance and see how the stack balances out....

    Anyone want to try this stack out for a killer deal and log it?

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    Matt, if you wouldn't mind sending me the details on pricing, I'd like to run and log the stack for you. It would be my first time for any hormonal product outside of Erase so I think I'd be a good baseline for efficacy. Diet and training are on point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    I have not seen too many amazing reviews on it to be honest -- but I also think alot of people expect too much from it and also many opt for AndroMass instead as the Version 2 yielded great results.

    I would like to see more people try AndroBulk and AndroEnhance and see how the stack balances out....

    Anyone want to try this stack out for a killer deal and log it?

    -Matt
    Matt- id be interesting in logging that if the price were reasonable. I'm currently on TRT and would also log in the anti-aging forum as well to give those guys some feedback.

    TRT dose is 100mg a week and it gets me to around 800ng:dl. Definitely would like to see how PP products could enhance the TRT experience.
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    Im doing ABv3 with SA topical (and fadogia)..not AE. but i already bought my shyt and im shy about logging i love deca ...so i figured ABv3 would be best for me.
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    IMO if ppl are running it the full 8 weeks they should get impressive results, and I have seen this to be the case in the reviews. Matt's idea about stacking AE with it would be a great stack given you have a solid base with the AE, should lend very impressive gains after an 8 week cycle. I hope someone gets in on this deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    Im doing ABv3 with SA topical (and fadogia)..not AE. but i already bought my shyt and im shy about logging i love deca ...so i figured ABv3 would be best for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    I have not seen too many amazing reviews on it to be honest -- but I also think alot of people expect too much from it and also many opt for AndroMass instead as the Version 2 yielded great results.

    I would like to see more people try AndroBulk and AndroEnhance and see how the stack balances out....

    Anyone want to try this stack out for a killer deal and log it?

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    Id be willing to try it out and log it for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Matt- id be interesting in logging that if the price were reasonable. I'm currently on TRT and would also log in the anti-aging forum as well to give those guys some feedback.

    TRT dose is 100mg a week and it gets me to around 800ng:dl. Definitely would like to see how PP products could enhance the TRT experience.

    I would say witha TRT candidate -- AndroHard + AndroEnhance might be more appropriate since the 4DHEA in AndroBulk would be 'almost' cancelled out since you are on exogenous TRT --- the DHT in AndroHard and Super-11 in ANdroENhance will be felt better and results should be better too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    I have not seen too many amazing reviews on it to be honest -- but I also think alot of people expect too much from it and also many opt for AndroMass instead as the Version 2 yielded great results.

    I would like to see more people try AndroBulk and AndroEnhance and see how the stack balances out....

    Anyone want to try this stack out for a killer deal and log it?

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    if this would have been offered this a couple weeks ago I'd do it instead of my AE/AH/Alpha mass stack. I'm gonna get a sick recomp from it! starts Sunday
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    I would say witha TRT candidate -- AndroHard + AndroEnhance might be more appropriate since the 4DHEA in AndroBulk would be 'almost' cancelled out since you are on exogenous TRT --- the DHT in AndroHard and Super-11 in ANdroENhance will be felt better and results should be better too.

    -Matt
    I'm on androgel, which i do not consider TRT (I am sure some do)....but I figured things such as 4DHEA and topical DHEA/pregnenolone would complement smaller doses of exogenous test? and DAA/fadogia would still be able to raise endogenous test levels despite the exogenous test...since the gel is a pretty miniscule mg amount of test as compared to 100-200mg test shots weekly. but maybe not? not sure how this gel will jive with ABv3?...we gonna find out though (no dermacrine on cycle, just the gel and some fadogia with SA topical)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    if this would have been offered this a couple weeks ago I'd do it instead of my AE/AH/Alpha mass stack. I'm gonna get a sick recomp from it! starts Sunday
    Awesome man, good luck!

    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I'm on androgel, which i do not consider TRT (I am sure some do)....but I figured things such as 4DHEA and topical DHEA/pregnenolone would complement smaller doses of exogenous test? and DAA/fadogia would still be able to raise endogenous test levels despite the exogenous test...since the gel is a pretty miniscule mg amount of test as compared to 100-200mg test shots weekly. but maybe not? not sure how this gel will jive with ABv3?...we gonna find out though (no dermacrine on cycle, just the gel and some fadogia with SA topical)...
    If you run Androgel year round (as in not just a cycle), then it is TRT, not sure what you see differently.

    Endogeneous testosterone will be shut down from the use of Androgel, not much you can really do to stop it, in my opinion. AB 3 would work well with it in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Awesome man, good luck!



    If you run Androgel year round (as in not just a cycle), then it is TRT, not sure what you see differently.

    Endogeneous testosterone will be shut down from the use of Androgel, not much you can really do to stop it, in my opinion. AB 3 would work well with it in my opinion.
    yeah I'm doing it year round....was being sort of facetious regarding the dosage/absorption rate and how little you actually get per week going on the 10% absorption figure and the 1% gel.....even at top dose (which is hard to get on) of 10G, that equals 10mg per day at suggested absorption rate (with the 1% not the 1.62%)....so a minimum of 70mg test per week....pretty lousy, I suppose if you were getting 20% or more absorption I would say OK at least you are going up over 100mg and more per week. but yeah, If you guys think it will work well with the ABv3 I'll keep running it...if not? I'll stockpile it during the 8 weeks and double up on it later....I get conflicting opinions on this subject....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    yeah I'm doing it year round....was being sort of facetious regarding the dosage/absorption rate and how little you actually get per week going on the 10% absorption figure and the 1% gel.....even at top dose (which is hard to get on) of 10G, that equals 10mg per day at suggested absorption rate (with the 1% not the 1.62%)....so a minimum of 70mg test per week....pretty lousy, I suppose if you were getting 20% or more absorption I would say OK at least you are going up over 100mg and more per week. but yeah, If you guys think it will work well with the ABv3 I'll keep running it...if not? I'll stockpile it during the 8 weeks and double up on it later....I get conflicting opinions on this subject....
    To be honest -- I really wish we would have just GONE FOR IT with AndroBulk and made a more concentrated solo 19NOR-DHEA product.

    Fill the entire softgel with 19 nor component and see what happens when solo or stacked.....

    We have lots of "crossover" or overlap hormones in all products (with good reason).

    But I would like to see how the delivery and absorption of pure 19nor in our sophisticated Hormone Transport Complex fares....

    I used to like the very old-school 19nordiol hormones -- hell....even ran solo, as it was just for 4 weeks.....I dont need to think about sex for a month -- I was willing to sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    To be honest -- I really wish we would have just GONE FOR IT with AndroBulk and made a more concentrated solo 19NOR-DHEA product.

    Fill the entire softgel with 19 nor component and see what happens when solo or stacked.....

    We have lots of "crossover" or overlap hormones in all products (with good reason).

    But I would like to see how the delivery and absorption of pure 19nor in our sophisticated Hormone Transport Complex fares....

    I used to like the very old-school 19nordiol hormones -- hell....even ran solo, as it was just for 4 weeks.....I dont need to think about sex for a month -- I was willing to sacrifice.

    -Matt
    agree on all points 100%...I was just thinking (again) last week as to WHY there are not just 4Dhea, 1Dhea, 19Nor, DHT, etc all separate so you can create your own stack.
    but yeah, the old school diols were great, I'd always opt for the 19nor versions of course usually (80+% of the time) when I do this type stuff (30-33 years old and now 39-40) I don't have a steady GF so I can do what I want with my sex drive, including crushing it LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    agree on all points 100%...I was just thinking (again) last week as to WHY there are not just 4Dhea, 1Dhea, 19Nor, DHT, etc all separate so you can create your own stack.
    but yeah, the old school diols were great, I'd always opt for the 19nor versions of course usually (80+% of the time) when I do this type stuff (30-33 years old and now 39-40) I don't have a steady GF so I can do what I want with my sex drive, including crushing it LOL
    I also need to consider how friggin expensive that 19norDHEA is for us to have made.....probably would cost MORE than it does now YIKES!

    Definitely could not justify the benefits for a 250 dollar bottle lol!

    In reality -- the old school DIOLS and DIONES should have NEVER been banned ---- sure ban designer methyls -- that makes sense...but the 4ad, 19nors were all safe and effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    I also need to consider how friggin expensive that 19norDHEA is for us to have made.....probably would cost MORE than it does now YIKES!

    Definitely could not justify the benefits for a 250 dollar bottle lol!

    In reality -- the old school DIOLS and DIONES should have NEVER been banned ---- sure ban designer methyls -- that makes sense...but the 4ad, 19nors were all safe and effective

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    the only bad part was that most guys had no idea they needed to PCT after this type stuff....when PA first came out with androstendione, and then all the other variants came out soon after, we'd just pop the pills and workout....take it as long as we could afford to. I recall we'd have to order out of the back pages of the musclemags...call the 1-800 # or send payment in the mail lol. probably why I felt as if I fuqed up my system in my mid 20's
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    Would it be worth it to run AndroBulk while on Test? Or would Test overshadow the AndroBulk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
    Would it be worth it to run AndroBulk while on Test? Or would Test overshadow the AndroBulk?
    I'm gonna be on androgel during the ABv3 run....I had asked about this and the reps pretty much said it would be fine...but I suppose it depends on how much test you are on....if you are around 100mg per week year round give or take 50mg either way, that is much different than say 3-500mg per week ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    the only bad part was that most guys had no idea they needed to PCT after this type stuff....when PA first came out with androstendione, and then all the other variants came out soon after, we'd just pop the pills and workout....take it as long as we could afford to. I recall we'd have to order out of the back pages of the musclemags...call the 1-800 # or send payment in the mail lol. probably why I felt as if I fuqed up my system in my mid 20's
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    You have to run test alone -- then stack it with AndroBulk to see if it was worth it....

    IMO -- i feel AndroHard, LEAN or AE would be better.... but I do not know 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    You have to run test alone -- then stack it with AndroBulk to see if it was worth it....

    IMO -- i feel AndroHard, LEAN or AE would be better.... but I do not know 100%

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    lean works very nicely with test actually. But what are your thoughts on low dose AHv3 year round with TRT? say 1-2 caps a day? not good to use year round? I mean if your on test year round in lower doses.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    lean works very nicely with test actually. But what are your thoughts on low dose AHv3 year round with TRT? say 1-2 caps a day? not good to use year round? I mean if your on test year round in lower doses.............
    We have at least one customer I know of who does this. 2 caps a day and he said he feels amazing. Was on a moderately low TRT dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
    Would it be worth it to run AndroBulk while on Test? Or would Test overshadow the AndroBulk?
    This would be ideal if Androbulk were only the 19-nor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    We have at least one customer I know of who does this. 2 caps a day and he said he feels amazing. Was on a moderately low TRT dose.
    sounds like my situation. might try it. well probably WILL try it, there usually is no "might" with me LOL....

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    This would be ideal if Androbulk were only the 19-nor.
    yeah exactly, we have been moaning and groaning over this for months on here, oh well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    lean works very nicely with test actually. But what are your thoughts on low dose AHv3 year round with TRT? say 1-2 caps a day? not good to use year round? I mean if your on test year round in lower doses.............

    Nobel252 from professionalmuscle muscle forums runs AH with TRT year round....loves it feels amazing on it he declares....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Nobel252 from professionalmuscle muscle forums runs AH with TRT year round....loves it feels amazing on it he declares....

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    Does he report any "DHT sides"? probably not at that dosage with this product....but with chronic use the norm can change....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    Does he report any "DHT sides"? probably not at that dosage with this product....but with chronic use the norm can change....
    Such as? Considering I have ran it over 20 weeks at full dose and sometimes more with zero sides (and I am side prone) tells me there wouldn't be any issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Such as? Considering I have ran it over 20 weeks at full dose and sometimes more with zero sides (and I am side prone) tells me there wouldn't be any issue
    You know....hair shedding...prostate issues....that type stuff. I had no issues at 7 weeks...but 365 might be a different animal
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Nobel252 from professionalmuscle muscle forums runs AH with TRT year round....loves it feels amazing on it he declares....

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    The take home point here is that these guys run many cycles, and are in competitions often. ProM doesn't mess around, if a product fails to deliver, they call it like it is, too much riding on it....Glad to hear a member there is using it successfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    The take home point here is that these guys run many cycles, and are in competitions often. ProM doesn't mess around, if a product fails to deliver, they call it like it is, too much riding on it....Glad to hear a member there is using it successfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    He is also top moderator on steroid-forums.com

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    Even more so a display of qualification to give a good assessment. Glad he enjoys it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    You know....hair shedding...prostate issues....that type stuff. I had no issues at 7 weeks...but 365 might be a different animal
    At that low of a dose I highly doubt it will be an issue besides being on TRT just stop it...no biggie

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    How have your health screens been with just the TRT, any concerns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    How have your health screens been with just the TRT, any concerns?
    I'm only about 2-3 weeks in, so when I bump to 5g of the gel mid-month I figure I'll give it another month and get blood work done (after 2 or so months on it). BP and all the stuff i can monitor is fine though. I will make sure I'm off the derma and ALv3, and test before starting the ABv3...want to time it to get accurate readings. You guys know how long after discontinuing the dermacrine do the test levels go back to "non-dermacrine" levels? I figure a few days to a week....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I'm only about 2-3 weeks in, so when I bump to 5g of the gel mid-month I figure I'll give it another month and get blood work done (after 2 or so months on it). BP and all the stuff i can monitor is fine though. I will make sure I'm off the derma and ALv3, and test before starting the ABv3...want to time it to get accurate readings. You guys know how long after discontinuing the dermacrine do the test levels go back to "non-dermacrine" levels? I figure a few days to a week....
    Nah, for normalization it will take at least 14 days imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Nah, for normalization it will take at least 14 days imo
    For real? That long..well that sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    For real? That long..well that sucks
    Ya, the body, although an amazing thing can take its sweet as time with things

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