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epistane to counter m14add aromatization?

  1.  08-22-2012  04:50 PM
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    Question epistane to counter m14add aromatization?


    i just had my gyno removed 3 and a half weeks ago, and started working out again this week, everything is going great, been taking the stack (60 mg of m1d and 30 of epi ED) and i know it's kind of risky to cycle so soon after surgery but i NEED to bulk up for these coming months for track and field (shotput and discus in my case), and i don't want an AI's or SERMS in my cycle until PCT, in order to get the best out of my gains.

    anyway i heard epi is a SERM by itself so would that balance out the low dose M1D?

    thanks in advance guys!



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    Don't take epistane just get some stano. I'm going to ignore the fact you just got out of surgery.

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    Originally Posted by retroscapers View Post
    Don't take epistane just get some stano. I'm going to ignore the fact you just got out of surgery.
    winny? i'm trying to bulk up as fast as i can lol.

    as for the surgery, i feel just fine, i worked chest today without a problem, although i did drop some strength on flat bench... no noticeable pain/bruising, except a mild burning in the left tit which i've had since i got out of surgery, the burning in my right is gone. i know it's not a very good idea but when i saw i was starting to lose some weight by the second week i was desperate to get back into it.

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    U sound crazy right now. U just had surg 3 weeks ago your body needs rest...you are obvy very prone to gyno so if I was you I'd be very careful. I dont usually need an AI for non aromatizing steroids but def use one for PCT. and no epi is NOT a serm just to answer your question.

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    brb surgery 3 weeks ago, starts steroid usage immediately

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    Originally Posted by Rhadam
    brb surgery 3 weeks ago, starts steroid usage immediately

    this is one of the reasons why steroids are demonized, because of people like the OP
    Lol
    Brb I wana get as big as possible so I'm gonna use the mildest PH available

    Brb my nips are on fire I'm gona use epi to zap em away

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    Originally Posted by cashinova87 View Post
    U sound crazy right now. U just had surg 3 weeks ago your body needs rest...you are obvy very prone to gyno so if I was you I'd be very careful. I dont usually need an AI for non aromatizing steroids but def use one for PCT. and no epi is NOT a serm just to answer your question.
    well i've had the gyno since i was a lad, it never fully went away and i thought it'd be best before i started using any prohormones, not sure if that'd make me gyno prone anymore. so what's all this about epi's gyno reducing properties?

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    at only 60mg of m14add the aromitization will be so little u should be fine. i know every ones different but i ran it at 120mg with 40mg epi and my nips didnt feel a thing. but imo u shouldnt be running anything

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    "I NEED to bulk up"? Eat some food! This dude sounds like a giant douche soufflé...

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    Originally Posted by mylo
    well i've had the gyno since i was a lad, it never fully went away and i thought it'd be best before i started using any prohormones, not sure if that'd make me gyno prone anymore. so what's all this about epi's gyno reducing properties?
    You still are gyno prone and I would think that after 3 weeks u shouldn't be using compounds that might possibly irritate your nips.
    But do what u gotta do, u asked for advice and that's my .02¢

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    stanodrol isnt winny stanzolol is but why he said use that is b/c it is a dht based steroid which should help with estrogen effects so its a smart comment not a stupid one
    Originally Posted by cashinova87 View Post
    You still are gyno prone and I would think that after 3 weeks u shouldn't be using compounds that might possibly irritate your nips.
    But do what u gotta do, u asked for advice and that's my .02¢

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    Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    stanodrol isnt winny stanzolol is but why he said use that is b/c it is a dht based steroid which should help with estrogen effects so its a smart comment not a stupid one
    i wasnt talking about his comment about winny and i never said it wasnt a good idea. not sure why u quoted me.

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    Originally Posted by cashinova87

    i wasnt talking about his comment about winny and i never said it wasnt a good idea. not sure why u quoted me.
    He does that....he'll even quote himself while ripping some other dude a new azzhole lol

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    AI's never worked for my gyno. Nolva was the only thing that did it.

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    if the doc removed all of the tissue, he shouldn't have anymore gyno problems.

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    So long as he took out the gland at least

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    was talking to OP just quoted the last message
    Originally Posted by cashinova87 View Post
    i wasnt talking about his comment about winny and i never said it wasnt a good idea. not sure why u quoted me.

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