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I'm new to ph's and am wanting to start a cycle of Methadrol Extreme by Iron Mag Labs. I was wondering if taking Cellucor's P6 was good enough as a pct.

A little info about me
6'1"
~200 lbs
I'm 23 and been lifting since I was in high school. I'm a hard gainer so it's hard for me to put on good muscle. I'm in decent shape but could be in better.

I need some guidance and any help would be appreciated
 
Bruiser76

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You've still got a lot of growth potential with your natural hormone levels. You're still pretty young, focus on heavy lifting and eating for now.
 
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Research more...then research some more.
 
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Deadlift, eat a baconator, squat eat a milkshake, and clean eat a pasta. Do this for 2 more years, then run Test E
 

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Research more...then research some more.
I've been on here looking for a while, even before registering. And been using google. A lot of it is confusing me. I wanted to ask someone that knew everything and guide me in the right direction
 
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I've been on here looking for a while, even before registering. And been using google. A lot of it is confusing me. I wanted to ask someone that knew everything and guide me in the right direction
Read "William Llewellynns Anabolics"
It tell you everything you need to know about anabolic, hormones, steroid profiles, etc. good place to start
 

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Mate I agree with all the above. I'd train a few more years before going down this route. However, if your minds completely set on using a ph. I would use something Abit more "mild" first like protodrol or a lower dose of hdrol.
 
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Lol. I would most likely die before the 2 years was up
Deadlift eavy 1x a week, squat heavy 1x a week, Clean or bench 1x a week. And maybe throw in some heavy bent over rows for good measure, no cardio, sleep 9+ hours a night, weight gain shakes before bed, steak for breakfast, pasta for lunch, baconator for second lunch, McDonald's for dinner, and a weight gain shake in between all those meals. Do this for 2 years relentlessly and you will be ready
 
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Deadlift eavy 1x a week, squat heavy 1x a week, Clean or bench 1x a week. And maybe throw in some heavy bent over rows for good measure, no cardio, sleep 9+ hours a night, weight gain shakes before bed, steak for breakfast, pasta for lunch, baconator for second lunch, McDonald's for dinner, and a weight gain shake in between all those meals. Do this for 2 years relentlessly and you will be ready
Dude, you're making me hungry! Guess I'm going to Wendy's for lunch...
 

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So halotest25 by power lab nutrition would be something good to start with. Cycle it with anything?
 
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So halotest25 by power lab nutrition would be something good to start with. Cycle it with anything?
That's a better idea. Look into getting a SERM for PCT as well. No sense messing up your body at a young age.
 

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That's where I get thrown off. What exactly is a SERM? If there is a sticky or something that tells me all of this I apologize, just point me to it please
 

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What about Powerlab's bottle of Post Cycle II? Not good enough as a pct?
 
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That's where I get thrown off. What exactly is a SERM? If there is a sticky or something that tells me all of this I apologize, just point me to it please
Google SERM and you'll find out.
 
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That's where I get thrown off. What exactly is a SERM? If there is a sticky or something that tells me all of this I apologize, just point me to it please
Google SERM, read the whole first page. Then google The Anabolic Cookbook, then order that
 

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Ok, so...googled SERM and that cleared things up. So I guess I'm looking at doing halotest25 for an 8 week cycle then doing Clomid and maybe Erase Pro? Good or bad? Places to get Clomid? And methadrol is a def no go for a noob?
 
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Yea, save the methadrol for later. I had a buddy who started with Raptor as his first ph (it has one less compound than methadrol) and it was a very bad idea... A Hdrol clone is a good starter for ph's.
 
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Ok, so...googled SERM and that cleared things up. So I guess I'm looking at doing halotest25 for an 8 week cycle then doing Clomid and maybe Erase Pro? Good or bad? Places to get Clomid? And methadrol is a def no go for a noob?
for the serm....google research chemicals
 
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How is that? How much would I need to take/buy?[/QUOTE]

No sources dude
 

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Ok so...I ordered a bottle of halotest25 yesterday with a cycle support by ironmag. I also picked up a sport multi, extra Hawthorne berry, fish oil, and another liver support. I'm gonna probably run Erase Pro and Cellucor's P6 as a pct and have a SERM around just in case. I'm looking to run Halo for 8 weeks and start my pct on the 7th and run it for 6 weeks.

What do you guys think about that?
If I get clomid, how would I cycle it in the pct?
 
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Run your pct after your cycle, and 8 weeks is too long for a methylated ph
 

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If I run a 6 week cycle would running halotest 25 for a cycle looking like: 50/50/75/75/100/100 be too much considering this is my first ph. I am running a cycle assist with an extra liver formula and Hawthorne berry as well as a multi vitamin and fish oil.
 
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See how it goes on 75 mg and bump it up if the sides aren't affecting you
 

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Lol. Gotcha. How would I cycle the clomid, how many mg a day
 

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Thanks. That's how I'll run it then. Started the cycle on Sunday. Looking forward to the next several weeks. I appreciate all the help
 

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Ok I have another question. Any kind of input I'll take.

What about stacking an OTC growth peptide with the halotest starting after week 2? I got a free bottle of a product called Tropinex AQ an was thinking of doing it in the cycle
 
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Ok I have another question. Any kind of input I'll take.

What about stacking an OTC growth peptide with the halotest starting after week 2? I got a free bottle of a product called Tropinex AQ an was thinking of doing it in the cycle
My uneducated opinion would be to run the hdrol solo since this is your first PH do you know how you react to it. If you don't run each compound solo you really won't know how they each affect you.

Less is best at times. I think this would be one of those situations.
 

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My uneducated opinion would be to run the hdrol solo since this is your first PH do you know how you react to it. If you don't run each compound solo you really won't know how they each affect you.

Less is best at times. I think this would be one of those situations.
Alright. That's what I'll do then. Thanks for the help
 

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I just got my Clomid in the mail today. Like I said I'm new to pHs and serms. It says not for human consumption. Is that normal?
 

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