Good Liver Friendly Phs ?
- 08-19-2012, 12:40 PM
- 08-19-2012, 12:47 PM
- 08-19-2012, 12:56 PM
Not that I am aware of, it just differs on the toxicity, every PH will effect your liver negatively in some way just some are slightly more gentle. There is no PH I have ever heard of the was 100% liver safe
08-19-2012, 01:11 PM
08-19-2012, 01:13 PM
HD is methylated so no.Originally Posted by uvawahoowa
The easiest on your liver would be a non methyl. However, non methyl still will indirectly put strain on your liver.
11 OXO is about as safe as it gets.
08-19-2012, 01:19 PM
08-19-2012, 01:43 PM
08-19-2012, 02:45 PM
08-19-2012, 02:48 PM
with proper supports and pct regime you should be fine on something like hdrol, pmag, halo, etc.....
08-19-2012, 03:27 PM
probably any of the androseries (DHEA based) and 7/11 keto/oxo....been on both and bloodwork said liver was perfectly normal in the 7th week of 8 week cycles. I believe Pstanz/win-50 is pretty friendly....these off the top of my head....
08-19-2012, 03:33 PM
08-19-2012, 03:36 PM
Have you ever used any of them? They are basically just DHEA. For the price of one bottle of that I can get AAS. I wouldn't waste my money.Originally Posted by hvactech
08-19-2012, 03:37 PM
Oh, and to the OP. Liver friendly PHs is like Family friendly porn.... It doesn't exist for a reason.
08-19-2012, 03:43 PM
08-19-2012, 03:45 PM
08-19-2012, 03:47 PM
I fell into the trap a few years ago with their "Methyl 1-D". Since I was new to supps, it seemed to work great, but it was nothing more than a **** ton of DHEA and other ingredients in a blend. Then they give it a chemical sounding name, trademark it and sell it as a PH. But we've all been duped before! Lol. LG does have some other great products though.Originally Posted by hvactech
08-19-2012, 03:48 PM
i like both, AAS and OTC stuff....you can do one AAS cycle per year, and the rest of the year do natty cycles (there is VERY good stuff out there now) and gray-area/PH/DS cycles too....keep it healthy and organ friendly most of the year, and do a more heavy duty AAS cycle once a year. then your on something or other pretty much perpetually but you are not harming yourself in any way....If you know how to train and eat properly? you can make do with natty/PH/DS with a little AAS mixed in here and there....
08-19-2012, 03:49 PM
Trenavar and max lmg are both methylatedOriginally Posted by JoeySon
08-19-2012, 04:03 PM
08-19-2012, 04:06 PM
Non-Methyl Trenazone, Helladrol is Methyl but seems to be pretty mild on Liver. These 2 could be stacked with Liver supports and you should be g2g.
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08-19-2012, 04:10 PM
08-19-2012, 04:12 PM
I'm not positive but a 13 Etheyl is another way of writing 18 methyl. It's not the same methylation as a 17 but it's still methylated.Originally Posted by hvactech
Not 100% on this jbryan has explained it before and I maybe confusing this info.
08-19-2012, 04:17 PM
the general consensus is that they are non methyl, either way alot safer on the liver than some. granted i will running dmz sooner than later
08-19-2012, 04:20 PM
Yeah alot easier on the liver than most. To the op I would say the safest thing would be the andro series or the AMS products.Originally Posted by hvactech
08-19-2012, 04:23 PM
all in all dont stress so much on the liver toxicity, now dont neglect it either but just read through non methyl threads and make your choice......but you may want to grab some pstanz and sd while you can
08-19-2012, 04:29 PM
whatever you do dont stack methylated compounds and you can get away with just taking cycle assist. idk to much about prohoromes but the strongest non methyl use to be 19-nor (tren) but that got banned.
08-19-2012, 05:15 PM
I laughed out loud at this...still tying to convince my wife otherwise...Originally Posted by Bruiser76
08-19-2012, 05:20 PM
08-20-2012, 03:04 PM
08-20-2012, 04:26 PM
I haven't tried any DHEA products yet, but the best thing about these in my opinion is the fact you stay on longer. More time to enjoy intense pumps and more time to train for gains.Originally Posted by ryansm
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