Anavar vs winnie for cut

[WARBIRDWS6]

That ones decent but I'm talking 50mg anavar 50mg winny a day and 700mg tren a week oh and 300mg test a week as well...and yeah I dunno you may or may not have me beat, get blood tests done?

Yeah, if athletics and fat loss I would definitely go winny no questions asked, but if less sides and fat loss? I guess anavar, though I don't have sides from Winny ever :/

hahaha, yeah I guess you win with the addition of the injectibles....but I want to see you follow through with it first, you may chicken out or something LOL but yes, good summation on the winny/anavar...add in retarded vascularity with the winny too as an extra bonus.

[WARBIRDWS6]

My bad. I'm looking for muscle hardness, fat loss, and strength gains. I have dealt with otc ph before got decent gains. But this will be my first real cycle.

you can't beat DHT derivatives (like winny) for hardening and vascularity, and for me fat loss too....strength? not sure which one is better since I am not an avid strength guy, esp with winny or anavar which I'd use to cut or recomp (and not lift very heavy, just a bit of heavy lifting when cutting).

[TFlifting]

hahaha, yeah I guess you win with the addition of the injectibles....but I want to see you follow through with it first, you may chicken out or something LOL but yes, good summation on the winny/anavar...add in retarded vascularity with the winny too as an extra bonus.

God I love winny and hahaha oh I'll follow through with it look for my log in October, I'm logging the entire 3 month cycle, diet and training included and pics, gonna be my first log of a cycle

[TFlifting]

My bad. I'm looking for muscle hardness, fat loss, and strength gains. I have dealt with otc ph before got decent gains. But this will be my first real cycle.

As for strength anavar is better apparently, as for everything else? I'm going with winny, point is no matter what you choose you will be happy

[howwedo107]

How's the back pumps on var? As bad as dbol or tbol?

[WARBIRDWS6]

God I love winny and hahaha oh I'll follow through with it look for my log in October, I'm logging the entire 3 month cycle, diet and training included and pics, gonna be my first log of a cycle

Did you get any shyt over the mention of the two orals when you posted your plans on here (or other boards)? usually that incites a riot and winny is my favorite, with dbol (w/ arimidex) being a close second.

[madebayo7]

As for strength anavar is better apparently, as for everything else? I'm going with winny, point is no matter what you choose you will be happy

Ok cool. Appreciate the help. I will be doing a log once I get everything together.

[WARBIRDWS6]

As for strength anavar is better apparently, as for everything else? I'm going with winny, point is no matter what you choose you will be happy

yeah that is what I've heard to be true, but I never lifted heavy on anavar so didn't want to comment on that part. but anavar should win the strength category.

[TFlifting]

Did you get any shyt over the mention of the two orals when you posted your plans on here (or other boards)? usually that incites a riot and winny is my favorite, with dbol (w/ arimidex) being a close second.

I don't mention use of two orals usually, people always start freaking out when they have no idea what they are talking about... Smh, and yeah winny is my fav to but I love my d-Bol as well, and even if I do get flamed I know what works for me so I don't give a ****

[WARBIRDWS6]

How's the back pumps on var? As bad as dbol or tbol?

I don't get this problem much for some reason. but I'm a weird responder, get some sides nobody gets...don't get sides everybody else gets... respond or don't respond opposite of others with some stuff...so don't go by me is what I'm trying to say

[TFlifting]

I don't ever get back pumps but my calves get horrible pumps to where I can't walk (weird I know...) but... D-Bol was way worse for that in my opinion

[Husker89]

they both will work great but for athletes use stanzolol, I mean ben johnson used it and look what he did in the olympics

My bad. I'm looking for muscle hardness, fat loss, and strength gains. I have dealt with otc ph before got decent gains. But this will be my first real cycle.

[TFlifting]

they both will work great but for athletes use stanzolol, I mean ben johnson used it and look what he did in the olympics

Lol did you just watch bigger stronger faster? And I already stated that

[madebayo7]

Lol did you just watch bigger stronger faster? And I already stated that

Is Stan harsh?

[TFlifting]

Is Stan harsh?

In comparison to what and harsh in what way? Personally I get no sides or anything, probably why I love it so much

[madebayo7]

In comparison to what and harsh in what way? Personally I get no sides or anything, probably why I love it so much

As far as being a beginner. I hear stuff like a newbie should never start with epi or dec. I guess I'm trying to be careful. I will be getting a crap load of support suppose. But you could never be too careful. Ya know?

[TFlifting]

As far as being a beginner. I hear stuff like a newbie should never start with epi or dec. I guess I'm trying to be careful. I will be getting a crap load of support suppose. But you could never be too careful. Ya know?

I may get flamed by this because "only use test first cycle" bull**** advise. But as a first timer I think you would be fine run it weeks 8-12 on your test cycle, compounds are generally fine as long as you know what you are doing and what to do if you encounter what side effects

[madebayo7]

Damn. Yet more research.

[TFlifting]

There is always more research to do

[madebayo7]

What about equipoise or aromasin? Any thoughts.