Anavar vs winnie for cut

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  1. I don't ever get back pumps but my calves get horrible pumps to where I can't walk (weird I know...) but... D-Bol was way worse for that in my opinion


  2. they both will work great but for athletes use stanzolol, I mean ben johnson used it and look what he did in the olympics
    Quote Originally Posted by madebayo7 View Post
    My bad. I'm looking for muscle hardness, fat loss, and strength gains. I have dealt with otc ph before got decent gains. But this will be my first real cycle.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    they both will work great but for athletes use stanzolol, I mean ben johnson used it and look what he did in the olympics
    Lol did you just watch bigger stronger faster? And I already stated that

  4. Quote Originally Posted by TFlifting

    Lol did you just watch bigger stronger faster? And I already stated that
    Is Stan harsh?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by madebayo7

    Is Stan harsh?
    In comparison to what and harsh in what way? Personally I get no sides or anything, probably why I love it so much
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TFlifting

    In comparison to what and harsh in what way? Personally I get no sides or anything, probably why I love it so much
    As far as being a beginner. I hear stuff like a newbie should never start with epi or dec. I guess I'm trying to be careful. I will be getting a crap load of support suppose. But you could never be too careful. Ya know?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by madebayo7

    As far as being a beginner. I hear stuff like a newbie should never start with epi or dec. I guess I'm trying to be careful. I will be getting a crap load of support suppose. But you could never be too careful. Ya know?
    I may get flamed by this because "only use test first cycle" bull**** advise. But as a first timer I think you would be fine run it weeks 8-12 on your test cycle, compounds are generally fine as long as you know what you are doing and what to do if you encounter what side effects

  8. Damn. Yet more research.

  9. There is always more research to do

  10. What about equipoise or aromasin? Any thoughts.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by madebayo7 View Post
    What about equipoise or aromasin? Any thoughts.
    what about them? one is an AAS and one is an AI.....

  12. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    what about them? one is an AAS and one is an AI.....
    I read that and thought the same thing... This makes me curious how in his mind they fit together

  13. Lol,lol,lol....cut me some slack. I'm trying to get on you guys level.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by madebayo7 View Post
    Lol,lol,lol....cut me some slack. I'm trying to get on you guys level.
    EQ... umm what do you want to know? it bumps up muscle like every other AAS.. oh and it makes you hungrier than a pack of wolves
    and aromasin in my opinion is a higher priced version of adex

  15. Really can't believe how many people choose winstrol over anavar I thought anavar was better for fat loss ESP the mid section and less sides an more muscle gains ?? Also winstrol is harsh on the lipids so why would winstrol be better ?

  16. I heard that anavar is a favorite. I guess I will try it out my next cycle.
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