stano or dermacrine?

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    stano or dermacrine?


    I have both but I'm not sure which I should run with this 6 week havoc cycle. Any thoughts?

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    depends on your goals. Bulk? + Dermacrine. Cut? + stano
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    Oh that was easy.
    Definitely more of a cut or recomp. I was looking for something to use to combat lethargy and other sides. So looks like stano it is
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    Probably both if you can swing the cost
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    Epi and stano might be overkill together though?
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    Epi and Dermacrine is a great combo for cutting and combating lethargy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metroba
    Epi and Dermacrine is a great combo for cutting and combating lethargy.
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    I did Epi with derma....then trenazone with half doses of AHv3 and pstanz ....good cycles. But you gotta be mindful of stacking too much DHT gear at once.
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    So epi and stano is too much?
    Looks like 1 vote epi/stano
    And 1 vote epi/dermacrine

    I wasn't going to run either until week 3 because i don't forsee any lethargy before then. Also because if I do run stano, that is enough for 4 weeks @ 600mg
    I'm also logging this cycle now in the cycle info forums
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    epi and stano are both DHT derivatives....so yeah, might be a bad idea. epi plus dermacrine might be the best option...or run the epi then the stano back to back but not at the same time, like a 6 week/4 week equaling 10 weeks, while incorporating the derma...stano and derma are not harsh so extending it 4 weeks with stano probably would be an OK idea....
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    Oh yes, too much DHT. I shaved my head fwiw. Is hair loss the only problem with running stano and epi? **edit-- the answer to that is no***

    I'd rather not run 10 weeks, so its looking like epi/dermacrine is the way to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Oh yes, too much DHT. I shaved my head fwiw. Is hair loss the only problem with running stano and epi? **edit-- the answer to that is no***

    I'd rather not run 10 weeks, so its looking like epi/dermacrine is the way to go
    haha, yeah I guess if you got a shaved head that is winning half the battle with running 2 DHT derivatives lol....but yeah, prostate issues too among other possible sides....but you could run them both at the same time in moderate doses if you really wanted too, but epi and derma is probably best. and save the stano for later. I'd run the 10 weeker but that is just me
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    If I did run 6 weeks epi and then 4 weeks stano, how would pct fit in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    If I did run 6 weeks epi and then 4 weeks stano, how would pct fit in?
    with epi I'd probably do low dose clomid (by itself for 6 week or w/ the stano at +4 weeks)....like 50/25/25/25. just stano might be a different story.....
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    Got torem... I was afraid to pct after week 10, 4 weeks after the epi. Its only my 2nd cycle so I feel like I should pct right after the epi until I learn more about how my body reacts.
    I guess I'll just go epi and dermacrine and save the stano or sell it
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Got torem... I was afraid to pct after week 10, 4 weeks after the epi. Its only my 2nd cycle so I feel like I should pct right after the epi until I learn more about how my body reacts.
    I guess I'll just go epi and dermacrine and save the stano or sell it
    yeah sounds like a responsible plan.
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