First injectable cycle advice?
- 08-17-2012, 12:55 PM
First injectable cycle advice?
Okay, well my stats are:
Lifting about 8 yrs now. (5 or 6 serious)
I'm 6ft 0, and 200lbs
Diet is usually clean, and I aim for 40, 40, 20 on my macros. 3500/4000 cals.
My cycle plan goes something like this;
Test E weeks 1-10 (250mg, twice a week)
Superdrol weeks 1-4 (Something like 20,30,40,40mg)
Arimidex EOD .5mg
Pct (10 days after last pin)
So, what do you guys think? Is the dosage for my PCT okay and do you have any tips for me?
Any criticism/advice on my cycle would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
- 08-17-2012, 01:07 PM
Your Clomid dosage is off. I am not sure why you would start PCT after ten days. But I have heard that some do. It seems more popular to wait longer, ie a full two weeks.
The rest looks okay.
08-17-2012, 01:10 PM
Okay, thanks man. What would be a more appropriate dosage? Or do I even need it at all? I've heard many people say either or with nolva/clomid and others say both.
08-17-2012, 01:14 PM
Well. You can't dose Clomid like that anyway. I mean everything is possible, but normal Clomid dosage is 100/50/50/25. With that said, some dose two SERMs while others will say it is not needed. Many will tell you to add more to your PCT also (erase, DAA, etc).
08-17-2012, 01:16 PM
You seem to not have read much if you don't know SERM dosages. I think you should prob read more. You def don't seem ready. Have you used SD?
08-17-2012, 03:13 PM
Arimidex is good, you could probably even go 0.5 E3D, as for the test dosage, that looks fine. Most people go for 12 weeks though since it is such a long ester it takes roughly 4 weeks to notice it working, and yeah fix clomid dose
08-17-2012, 03:25 PM
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08-17-2012, 06:16 PM
In my experience you don't need to dose that high to get results. I'm on ~9th week of 350mg (150mg every 3 days) of Test-E and 15mg of Superdrol (on 4 weeks, off 4, on 4), and I'm up to 325 bench @ 170lbs from ~275 bench @ ~175lbs. Been in a small calorie deficit almost every day. The difference between 350mg and 500mg of test probably isn't going to be a whole lot, but the sides from 30-40mg of Superdrol might get pretty bad.
08-17-2012, 09:35 PM
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08-17-2012, 10:43 PM
I suggest adding DAA.
As for the AI, credit to Brundel who posted this theory on another forum:
"exemestane or formestane always over adex.
The reason is the former 2 are suicidal aromatase inhibitors.
This means they forever render the enzyme inactive.
THis is on contrary to arimidex which is a NON suicidal and will release some of the enzyme upon cessation of treatment. So you get a big estro spike when you stop using adex....but not exem or form.
Since on of the main goals of PCT is getting estro under control, the very last thing you want is a big estro spike right at the end.
This spike will slow or stop test production and therefore hinder recovery."
08-17-2012, 10:48 PM
08-17-2012, 11:36 PM
I'm not sure who brundel is, and that theory has been out long before he said it... and its more a myth than anything.
I've used letrozole with virtually zero rebound, and have blood work to prove it. It did bounce back to normal range after 2 weeks but was still depressed after 1 week from my last dose (test levels were above reference range tho, which is why I like it for pct).
The fact is that letro and adex will not cause a rebound in most males and certainly won't cause a rise in estrogen to a level that negatively affects the htpa.
08-17-2012, 11:54 PM
I'd goOriginally Posted by YoungGymLuffa
Test e 12 weeks 500 a week
SD 20/20/20/20 or 30/30/30/30 I personally wouldn't go over 30 but that's up to you and pretty dependent of the person as far as sides. I know personally I can't handle SD at 40.
Adex- I would only use this if you need to. No reason to throw it in if you don't need it. But for sure have it on hand.
As far as PCT I would either go clomid OR Nolva since I'm assuming you've never used either. The reason being in case you don't react well or have a problem with one of them you know what's causing it. If your running both you won't know which one is causing problems.
I also recommend getting bloodwork done before, in the middle of cycle and after PCT. hope this helps bro good luck.
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08-18-2012, 09:26 AM
Thanks a lot guys for the replies...I'll definitely take on board about waiting two weeks for PCT, and I think I will throw in some natty T-boosters for good measure. (Hey, it won't hurt).
Still, undecided about whether to drop the Clomid altogether or not. Better do bit more reading.
I have done Superdrol at those dosages before and didn't see sides until last week, nothing too bad though. So, that's my reason for choosing them.
If all goes well, I'll be pinning this time two weeks. Can't wait. Thanks brahs.
08-18-2012, 06:43 PM
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08-18-2012, 07:12 PM
You are correct that the theory is wrong, but so is your thoughts about rebound and ai'sOriginally Posted by ripped_one
08-18-2012, 07:14 PM
08-18-2012, 07:16 PM
08-18-2012, 07:17 PM
If you have liquid Clomid, you can divide the dosage up however you want.Originally Posted by TheGnome
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